Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters have serious concerns

Dr. Scott Petrie

By: Jeff Helsdon   Ontario Out of Doors

Proposals for hundreds of wind turbines in the Great Lakes have raised concerns among wildlife biologists. Dr. Scott Petrie, executive director of Long Point Waterfowl, who examined a map of proposed wind farms in Lakes Ontario, Erie, and St. Clair, said the numbers will “boggle your mind.”

South Point Wind’s proposal for 715 turbines in western Lake Erie between Rondeau and Amherstburg and Lake St. Clair have resulted in heated community meetings. Hundreds more are being planned for the American side of the lake.

Petrie worries about the potential impact on traditional waterfowl staging, resting, and feeding habitat. He maintains Ontario has an obligation under the North American Migratory Bird Treaty to protect critical waterfowl habitat. He also worries about how this will affect the continental population of some species and alter hunting and birdwatching opportunities.

Offshore turbines have been operational in Europe for years, but only in saltwater environments. Petrie says there’s little research on their impact in freshwater and notes European studies showed turbines can displace waterfowl. He’s not against wind power, but is wary of indiscriminate placement without regard for wildlife.

OFAH’s Provincial Manager of Fish and Wildlife Services Terry Quinney has similar concerns regarding fisheries. “We want to see fisheries’ values protected and enhanced,” he said. “We don’t want to see them compromised.”

Quinney cites Lake Erie perch and walleye fisheries, saying he doesn’t want negative impacts on spawning habitat or fish migration patterns. “There’s a whole lot of questions that there are no answers for because wind turbines have never been tried in this context,” he said. He also worries that turbines could impact hunting and fishing opportunities.

19 thoughts on “Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters have serious concerns

  1. People seemed to be more outraged over wildlife being destroyed than humans……………..we are all in this together even though all living things seem to be expendable in the rush to go Green!

  2. And now people who are having their “habitat” destroyed can empathize with how animals and birds have been treated by humans.

    What harms the creatures harms us. They were the canaries in the coal mine – now we are also canaries.

    All is one.

  3. Jeff, thumbs up to your article.

    Quixote, you’re right, “we are all in this together,” which is called Biodiversity but this doesn’t mean much as far our provincial government is concerned as they are more concerned with stealing more from the poor to feed the rich.

    Are people more outraged over the slaughter of wildlife? I would say no, but they should be and should have been from the beginning. I made mention of the following in an earlier post:

    “Wind Turbines that are operating in Canada when they kill wildlife, the companies are in violation of our wildlife protection laws, Wolfe Island and Ripley are examples, the slaughter has been well documented and it is going to continue.

    If our wildlife protection laws were to be enforced, then there wouldn’t be a need for human studies? They want the studies to show the ill effects to man, the wind companies say there aren’t any ill effects however they can not say that there wind turbines do not kill wildlife. In one aspect we are looking for something to use against the wind companies, with the other aspect we already have evidence to shut them down as per our wildlife protection laws.

    The Canadian government has charged the oil companies out west for killing wildlife how come the Canadian government has not laid any charges against the wind companies for their killing of wildlife, under our existing legislation they are both considered to be activities”

    Every person only has to ask two questions of any politician:

    Q. Why were wildlife protection laws legislated within Canada in the first place?

    Q. With regards to wind turbines prior to being operated within Canada, it was well-known worldwide, that they kill wildlife. Why then were they even allowed?

    A politician would/could not answer those questions for the obvious reasons. Wildlife is neither negligible nor negotiable. If politicians would have given any thought towards our wildlife protection laws from the get go we wouldn’t be concerned about wind turbines because they serve as an example as to why the wildlife protection laws were set in place.

    The Ontario government is breaking their own laws when it comes to wildlife. If the laws are enforced wind turbines will not exist in our province and then we don’t have to be concerned about human effects. The Endangered Species Act is the key to success in all of this.

  4. well we have a number of turbines in our back yard(so to speak) which is home to a number of wildlife. In the year we have been here, we have seen numerous wildlife including a wolf, the fish spawn right next to a turbine, as the river is directly beside it. There has been no indication of lack of spawning, nor wildlife by anymeans, there are coyotes, turkeys, deer and many kinds of birds. The turbines can be noisy, but not to the point of headaches, I actually get less headaches now then before. And the turbines are quiet compared to the city any day

  5. Donna,
    Are you being paid by the wind company to say that?
    Have you done any bird death counts to back up your claims?

    Just wondering where you are coming from.

    Sam

  6. Yeah – sure Donna.

    You know, it usually works better if you make it believeable. Throw in a couple of birds of prey being chopped up and a small reduction in the number of deer – or something like that.

    Otherwise, as even the most ardent supporters of Turbines already admit there are some minor problems (worth the trade-off for saving the planet, of course) your Garden of spinning Eden just seems a little bit of a fantasy.

  7. Sam:

    You are likely right. The scavengers will take care of most of the carcasses.
    I think that is why the estimates — you would have to stand there for months collecting data to be more certain.

  8. Donna is probably still becoming accustomed to the “quiet” of the country as compared to the City noise……….it will take 3 years plus to get acclimated to the true “Country Life” and by then I can guarantee Donna’s story will be one of horror and misery living within these wind monsters.

    Also only being there a year gives one a very limited outlook on what was there before as compared to now after the IWT’s were started up.

    If Donna is satisfied with what she has now then there will be no discussion……………..just get back to us when these things start driving you completely mad!

  9. well needless to say i have always lived in the country and only ever visited the city . so i am well accustomed to “country life”. as per the reduction of population of deer, nope sorry about your luck, there are numerous deer and other wildlife, and the turbines cannot be heard for 2kms, like it is claimed, people i have that visit (including ones with hearing aids) could not hear them….. people should be more worried about the use of pestcides killing off birds, and other wildlife, last time i checked, i have seen more birds hit on the road than by the turbines, and deer as well, cuz they do not think before they jump, but they cant (the deer) jump as high as a turbine….. And no i do not get paid by anyone to speak what i know and have seen

  10. Donna:

    Sounds like you are one of the group that is not affected. That’s great.

    What is your proximity and direction to the turbines? Are you east or west of them, and what is the bearing to the installation? (Or the range of measurements if there is a spread.) Just curious as your experience might be useful to people contemplating a purchase near turbines.

    As to wildlife did anyone do a survey or is it anecdotal, as in: There was wildlife before and there is now — but nobody has counted… So may be there is more — maybe less, but we have no numbers.

  11. Donna,
    Deer don’t think before they jump? Maybe they
    are blinded by something? Bright lights and confusion? Could it be green-washing that has caused you to speak before you think? Sounds like you signed a gag order to ignore the real effects of industrial wind turbines. Give your head a shake,girl. There are so many people adversely affected by them. Do you think they are making up what is known as Wind Turbine Syndrome? Vote Liberal, get your ears tested and give it time, at lease until the money runs out and your property is worth nothing. Glad you
    have enjoyed your first year! Your headaches will
    reappear, about the same time you want to sell
    and move from your lovely surroundings. Or are
    you protecting your investment, with your stories.

  12. well needless to say i do not get money from no one, asi did not sign nothing , and i would like absolute proof of the effects of health problems from actual people who claim to have gotten ill from something that is regular power, so i guess its safe to say anyone living near a nuclear plant is gonna die soon too? they will cause more problems than turbines which BRITAIN has used for years and no one has problems there

  13. Today was the windiest day we have had over the past 2 weeks.

    My house is surrounded by about 150 acres of farmland (another 200 across the road). This year, it is planted with Soy (undoubtedly, round-up ready Soy).

    It was “close the windows” day – right at lunchtime, as the mighty sprayers hit the fields, unloading their cargo of Round-up. There was the usual lack of concern, whatsoever, for the drift caused by a significant southwest wind (it drifts right in my windows, by the way). This is not an uncommon occurence.

    The farmer applying this delicious brew of isopropylamine salt of glyphosate is the local WIND TURBINE KING. This is the same farmer that has championed spreading sludge (human excrement from neighbouring towns) as cheap fertilizer, on his land. A true champion of the Environment!!

    This has nothing to do with protecting the environment, Donna – but everything to do with petty cash!

  14. Donna:

    Do you also require absolute proof that Wind Turbines are safe?

    …some effects are cumulative you know.

    If somebody buys your house maybe they wil sue you in 10 years because you should have been aware of the effects and supplied those facts before closing.

    Maybe a letter to CanWea asking for that proof is in order…

  15. Donna,

    I’ll ask you just two questions, why were Wildlife protection laws introduced within Canada and Ontario and where should the line be drawn with regards to the slaughter of Ontario’s wildlife in relation to the continued use of wind turbines in Ontario?

  16. PECV
    Roundup is a the safest herbicide there is. Safer than the herbicides used to spray “non-roundup ready” soys so you should be grateful what the farmer was spraying around your house.
    An even safer alternative would be organic soybeans but they you would probably complain about allergens due to ragweed or quackgrass 🙂 Sometimes farmers can’t win!

    Also, sewage sludge is very safe if applied at the right rates. If we are going to manage our finite nutrients like phosphorus than we HAVE to recycle human excrament on farm land. Storing sludge in landfills is not an option, nor is letting it run into our oceans where the nutrients disappear.
    If there was ever a NIMBY than you’re definetly it!

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