Wind turbines: ‘Get used to it,’ says minister Duguid

Ripley Ontario

By Wes Keller, Orangeville Citizen

Mayor Taylor says he discussed the setbacks and the township’s lack of control over turbines that would extend into East Gary from the Belwood Wind Farm with Minister Duguid. In an interview, he quoted the minister as responding, simply, “Get used to it.”

While a majority of Canadians favour wind turbines and other forms of renewable energy generation, East Garafraxa Council is taking a hard line on local developmental control – and has gone on record as seeking setbacks that would effectively preclude any turbine construction.

Oddly enough, the Township has never opposed wind farm developments. But two years ago it had commissioned a study into how such could proceed with the least impact on residents. More recently, Mayor Allen Taylor came away from an AMO convention with the knowledge that the study means nothing to the provincial government.

The township’s study, which had been completed in full consultation with residents, was adopted as Official Plan Amendment (OPA) No. 3, which might have meant that Ontario Municipal Board hearings such as the one in Amaranth would never happen in East Gary provided that wind farm proponents were in compliance.

But, the mayor notes in letter to Premier Dalton McGuinty, the OPA has never been approved by the province. Instead, the province has adopted the Green Energy Act, which effectively takes away any authority the municipalities might have over renewable energy developments, including wind farms.

The Act proscribes setbacks of 550 metres from residences – an increase from a previously accepted norm of 400-450. But township council was a bit taken aback when Energy Minister Brad Duguid was reported to have asked for a 5,000-metre (5 km) setback from bathing beaches for offshore turbines.

“Council would support the same setback to the proposed off-shore turbines, for turbines on shore, and suggest that Minister Duguid consider the concerns of more than the ‘people who were concerned that if they go to the beach, they could be looking up at a huge wind turbine’,” the letter to the premier says.

Mayor Taylor says he discussed the setbacks and the township’s lack of control over turbines that would extend into East Gary from the Belwood Wind Farm with Minister Duguid. In an interview, he quoted the minister as responding, simply, “Get used to it.”

Getting used to it might be good advice if the Green Energy Act remains in force. Canada is being viewed as being among the leaders in new wind farm development, and it appears Ontario is leading the pack.

In the most recent accounts of development, Siemens Canada has inked a deal with Samsung C & T to supply up to 600 megawatts of wind turbines, and plans to build Ontario’s first blade factory.

18 thoughts on “Wind turbines: ‘Get used to it,’ says minister Duguid

  1. Hopefully the courts will rule that you, Mr. Duiguid, can “get used to it”!

  2. I can’t wait until Duguid and McGuinty are sitting in the back benches of the (Ontario Liberal) opposition part…I can get used to that very easily…

  3. “…Canada is being viewed as being among the leaders in new wind farm development, and it appears Ontario is leading the pack.”

    Wow! Let’s wave them pom poms.

    It never fails, when public support is needed either scare the jeepers out of us, or play the patriotic card. Pathetic!

    All said and done, what is the price WE pay for such a stature?

  4. “get used to it!”……………..nicely done Brad……..this will find it’s way out into the Public Forum real quick!

    Joe Q. Public is finally waking up to the “Green Terror” that is now driving their Electricity bills through the roof………….they can put a face to the otherwise “unknown reasons” behind huge bill increases!

    Maybe Duguid should watch his words a little more carefully as he isn’t just talking to “country bumpkins” anymore but is actually talking to every single citizen of Ontario.

    Now if we can get that statement out to the masses then we have a chance of bringing this wee small minded political cabal down!

    Oh yeah………………those of us who are running for election can say just that during our info nights in auditoriums and schools or wherever they hold an all candidates night!

    Wish you all could be in that position!

  5. “Get used to it” isnt that what they said to Bernie Madoff? Throwing these guys out of office isn’t enough. They get to leave with hefty pensions and lofty positions in the companies they supported. There is no fiscal responsibility to the citizens of Ontario by this gang, they are looting the public and throwing in our faces. I suggest some serious investigations into these guys and long long jail time, otherwise tie them to blades of one of their windmills for all to see.

  6. I am curious about the claim:

    “While a majority of Canadians favour wind turbines and other forms of renewable energy generation, …”

    I have sent an email to the author asking him if there is support for that claim.

    I have no reason to doubt him — but I would like to know the basis of the claim. I know that we looked at a (CANWEA commissioned?) survey a while ago.

    Ah yes this one…
    http://windconcernsontario.wordpress.com/2010/07/28/ontario%E2%80%99s-power-trip-wind-in-your-sails/

    But I would not dare use that one in any serious paper due to the “framing” of the survey/questions.

  7. “…otherwise tie them to blades of one of their windmills for all to see.”

    Now that would be priceless.

  8. “I am curious about the claim:”

    Lies…Damn Lies………Statistics 😉

    I’m curious about a real survey done on an informed populace.

  9. And the Liberal Marie Antoinette award of the week goes to… Mr. Duguid.
    Seriously it is time to send these snotty little twerps back to the private sector. Anyone so insensitive should be nowhere near exectutive government.

  10. It’s interesting to see that because there seems to be financial action on the manufacturing of turbine blades, and that Siemens now has cut a deal with Samsung for 600 MW of wind generation, that this is an indication that wind energy has validity, so we better get use to it. Set aside the fact that wind worldwide only provides 1% of the electrical needs after 15 years of hefty European subsidies at 200 times the rate received by any other source of energy. To hell with the idea that places like Germany and Denmark only get 5 to 7% of their electrical needs from wind turbines despite installing 20% of their capacity with wind. Who cares that the industry receives these subsidies for the next 20 years and desecrates prime agricultural land, bird and bat populations and does nothing towards reducing GHG emissions or reducing the use of coal. Clean energy is nothing but a dirty lie! and we are being duped.

  11. They may favour wind turbines because they have no clue as to their actual performance. When the bills come due, or when more brownouts occur they will complain that they were misled by the government , or by the MSM.

  12. Sam:

    You are correct on that.

    It is sad that so many people are misinformed as to performance and cost.

  13. The ONLY reason the urban voters talk positive about Wind Turbines is that there is no way there will ever be any wind development within an Urban centre such as Toronto. The land is too scarce, too costly and having Wind Turbines around high density populated places is too dangerous!

    McGuinty knows this along with all the other scummy politicos that have ever jumped on this bandwagon.

    Here’s the kicker though. I talked to many Toronto neighbours at my son’s place and when the price of Hydro comes up I suggest that it’s because of “renewables” in the mix and how everyone has to pay for this SCAM!………….

    THEN there is a bright light in their eyes and they agree that there should be a halt to this development and that McGuinty should be held on criminal charges for destroying our homes, lands and economy!

    This is the one strength we have across this Province ………we are all in this together, not Rural versus Urban even though McGuinty would love to have us fight each other.

    All Ontarians consider this guy an idiot!

  14. “A kingdom founded on injustice never lasts.”
    Seneca quotes (Roman philosopher, mid-1st century AD)

    We’ll see you in October, 2011, Brad.

  15. Interesting how the former President of Pollara is also the one who engineered McGuinty’s election campaign. The article only struck my eye after my brief conversation with MPP Rick Johnson When I told Rick we didn’t want turbines in Manvers, he shot back with a 93% figure of approval, which I looked up and found came from the Pollara poll, engineered by Don Guy, who has now quit as President and will go back on McGuinty’s team.
    http://www.thestar.com/news/ontario/article/736921–premier-gears-up-for-2011-vote
    http://www.pollara.ca/OGEA/

  16. Good Call Manvers!!!

    Apparently, Mr Guy has about 750,000 more reasons to make sure this approval rating appears high!

  17. It’s funny how stories link up. The previous comment talks about the poll conducted by Pollara that shows a 93% approval for Liberal wind energy policy, and now we find out that the Liberal Caucus is paying Don Guy $400,000.00 in taxpayer money. Nice.

  18. Please note the dates on the Pollara polls. April 26 2009?

    I suspect that then most people knew a lot less — I certainly did!

    The level of knowledge might be a lot higher now. (tic)

    Refer to “Mr. Minister” on getting the desired survey results.

    He is right about the opposition…

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