California vote illuminates Ontario’s energy future

 Toronto Star

Ontario already produces 80 per cent of its electricity from non-greenhouse gas emitting nuclear and hydro and has nothing to learn from California, which is a financial basket case, has to import electricity (hydro and coal-fired), and has a lousy recent history in electricity generation.

A better bang for the buck would be to reduce emissions from Ontario’s transportation and industrial sectors. In 2008 California got 35 per cent of its electricity from non-GHG emitting sources like nuclear, hydro and geothermal while about 65 per cent came from GHG emitting natural gas and coal so putting a price on carbon will jack up California’s already high kWh electricity cost.

The state’s mandate to increase the use of wind and solar with a feed-in-tariff will put up the cost even more. Unfortunately Ontario is heading this way too, with its emphasize on wind and solar that will push up the cost of electricity and drive jobs out of the province, just like it has in California.

Donald Jones, Mississauga


8 thoughts on “California vote illuminates Ontario’s energy future

  1. “California, which is a financial basket case”

    Really? Ya think?

    You may want to recheck your data.

    California has a population of 36 million people, as much as all of Canada. Total state debt:
    506 billion dollars US. (Combined State and municipal debt).

    Ontario has a population of 13 million. Total Provincial ONLY debt 200 BILLION dollars cdn!

    Who is the financial basket case here?


  2. Woow ,thanks BW .That does put things in prospective.So question is not will , but when Green will push Ontario over the edge .Paying for Peter to prop up Paul has come at a price that people really need to understand .The word needs to get out as I still see many that have no clue where this is going in their everyday life. I wasn’t quite aware how the interest rates could sink the ship ,now that its gone this far.

  3. “Has a Canadian province ever declared bankruptcy?”

    A quick google of the question says no. Any guesses as to the most likely candidate?


  4. There comes a time when a state can’t service its debt obligations – not unlike a consumer unable to service minimum payments on a credit card.

    As a consequence, austerity measures kick in, as demanded by the lenders, and credit ratings are tarnished. This in turn prohibits access to cheap credit. It’s a recipe for disaster because you need both this cheap credit along with a prosperous tax base (us and our unborn) as collateral to service the debt. This is what keeps the treadmill running.

    That said, I’m not sure what “bankruptcy” really means. When there is no access to credit, massive unemployment, a slash in social services, and you have a populace on the tipping point that canot withstand any further taxation, what else can be done? Further debt restructuring only prolongs the inevetible. Right? And, I think it was Chretien who said “debt forgiveness if for the poorest of nations”.

    So, I think we can see where this is heading…eventually ;(

  5. California has been home for many years for green activists and eco-nuts. They thrive in warm climates where it dosen’t cost much to keep warm.

    These are the people who have forced their views on the U.S. as a whole. An example being the auto milage requirements forced on U.S. auto makers by California U.S. members of Congress.

    California’s unreasonable demands about milage has done great damage to domestic auto companies.

    The U.S. auto sector used to lead the country out of recessions. This time the U.S. auto sector had been so weakened by environmental requirements that this was no longer possible.

    So the geese that laid the golden eggs are almost dead. So long to U.S. manufacturing if this goes any further.

    By the way Californians prefer to drive foreign cars over our domestic autos.

  6. Don’t be too hard on the eco nuts in California. There they usually practice what they preach.

    As a result they have a lot of “brown outs” and localized black outs, very expensive and unreliable electricity and over 14,000 rusting wind turbine hulks to clean up!

    On the flip side of green-nut generation is truly green conservation. Here California shines. Her overall per capita electricity consumption has remained flat for the last 20 years and today her per capita rate is 40% below the US national average.

    I don’t think California is responsible for the EU style stupidity Dalton dumped on us.


  7. Breaking Wind,

    Take a look at what the California Congressional delegation has done to the U.S. over the past few years in helping to promote the EU green energy agend in the U.S. Canada just followed what the U.S. did.

    California has lost lots of jobs over the past few years due to the State’s energy policies. Businesses moved to Nevada and Arizona and up the west coast to Oregon & Washington.

    It is expected that California’s Cap & Trade will cost the state even more jobs.

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