McGuinty blows in the wind: Editorial

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Toronto Sun

From the beginning, Premier Dalton McGuinty’s green energy strategy has been a case of “ready, fire, aim.”

It started when he promised in the 2003 election to close Ontario’s coal-fired electricity plants by 2007. His latest promise is 2014.

He promised micro-generators of renewable energy absurdly expensive subsidies to produce green power, then backtracked because (a) the province couldn’t afford them and (b) many projects couldn’t be hooked into the power grid.

His government initially described a new natural gas-fired power plant in Oakville as vital to Ontario’s green energy plans, then killed it in the face of community opposition, suddenly declaring it unnecessary. The fact the local Liberal MPP could have lost his seat in this fall’s election over the issue, apparently had nothing to do with it.

In his latest reversal last Friday — which McGuinty was so proud of he announced it while the world’s attention was riveted on Egypt — he pulled the plug on offshore wind farms, of which he had previously been an enthusiastic backer, for further study.

This after an earlier fiasco in which Energy Minister Brad Duguid decreed, out of nowhere, a five-kilometre minimum setback for offshore wind turbines (compared to 550 metres for onshore ones), in part, he said, so people coming down to the beach wouldn’t have to look up at them.

In other words, Duguid announced a setback policy based on aesthetics — how wind turbines look — a reversal of McGuinty’s earlier position that anyone opposed to wind turbines for any reason other than genuine safety or environmental concerns, was a NIMBY.

And again, of course, McGuinty’s climb down on offshore wind turbines had nothing to do with the fact Toronto Hydro’s proposal to build a 60-turbine wind farm in Lake Ontario off the Scarborough Bluffs had ticked off voters in four Liberal-held ridings — five counting Duguid’s.

Meanwhile, McGuinty has infuriated rural voters across Ontario by the high-handed way he imposed onshore wind farms in their communities, while electricity consumers across Ontario are complaining about the costs of super-expensive green energy contributing to skyrocketing hydro bills.

Too bad for McGuinty, Al Gore can’t vote in the next election. At least he seems to be a, pardon the pun, big fan.

25 thoughts on “McGuinty blows in the wind: Editorial




  2. Yea! Hudak just had to be patient until McGuinty stuck own foot in mouth. We get a clear election choice and people will vote with their hydro bill.

  3. The proof is in the pudding…

    We will find out finally and for certain the state of our egregiously wounded democracy
    the day after the next election!


  4. Bring us the plan, Hudak, we’ll be there with our vote!!!!!!!!!!!
    The birds, bats and people will be safe 🙂 Lets save Ontario and keep it working!

  5. Industrial Wind Power seems to be getting more attention in the media due to McGuinty’s announcement on Friday.

    Our local CBC played three “talk back” messages from listeners this morning. The first listener was pro-wind because 2,000 people die annually in Ontario from pollution from coal plants (guess she didn’t see that scientific study that put the number at….ZERO).

    The next two callers were against turbines – one called Sault Ste Marie the gateway to wind turbine hell due to projects planned for the pristine North Shore of Lake Superior, and the other pointed out how IWT’s were being forced on the north and rural areas when the power is actually needed in urban areas. Not bad for CBC !!!

  6. CBC used to cut off people who had real issues to talk about.

  7. We can have his [McGuinty] first week booked here “toute de suiite”:

    Would anyone else contribute? I know it seems like a lot of money…. but if he is left where he is the cost could run into hundreds of billions of $$ in additional losses. I think this alternative is cheaper.

    Now I have not been given permission to spend the bucks (They aren’t mine) but based on a conversation last night I suspect I could have permission in less than 30 seconds (it takes 25 seconds to connect).

    The only condition would be a one way trip. He’s on his own from there and he has to turn in his passport after clearing customs.

    Will you contribute if we carry out this plan?

  8. A very nice place for “despots” to retire I’m sure…………it’s Hillary’s choice for a place to meet Russian and UN despots for negotiations that decide the “future of the world”!

    My suggestion is for these “World Leaders” to meet in a nice Bodega in Nigeria or Uganda and watch the streets outside running with human sewage while they cook up their grandiose schemes and back room deals that will eventually be touted as “Our Future Global Governance Team” working hard to save us from ourselves!

  9. Finally…..Hudak.

    What does this mean for projects already up? Can he pull the plug on their subsidy?

  10. Slightly O/T Kelly McParland offers this little gem in the NatPost:

    But it gives the Ontario premier something to talk about, other than the performance of his own government. And, in full flight, he offered this criticism of Ottawa’s thinking on the prison front:

    “I just think that good policy is driven by science,” he said. “It’s driven by objective data. And the data are telling us that crime is going down. So I think that raises some pretty important questions.”

    He seems to have forgotten that, just the other day, his government abandoned a promise to develop offshore wind farms as an alternative source of energy, explaining that it hadn’t done its homework on the science.

    Maybe Mr. McGuinty could find a good science teacher, and then offer to share his discovery with the feds. They could criticize each other’s policies during recess.

  11. Never thought I would be voting Conservative but if that promise is an immediate end (not in a few years) to the wasteful green energy subsidies they have my vote. If they promise to have every IWT decommissioned within the next five years or sooner I will even campaign for them. IWTs are nothing but a waste of effort and our money. Each IWT operating is a drain on our economics, environment and health. Say no to IWT.

  12. T3 – Not a chance you will lose support. I know many AIMBY’s (aren’t in my back yard) fighting the good fight against these blunders in the sky, based on the sheer disgust in the lack of morals behind the wind-astrophy. Based on empathy towards our rural brothers and sisters. No one with a conscience can read your posts and turn a blind eye. Keep them coming, hang in there, and when it’s all over we’ll all throw on our sh^tkickers and have one hell’uva party!

    Thank you AIMBY’s

  13. Thanks for posting the interview Robin. Tim Hudak actually made similar comments two weeks ago in an interview with the Owen Sound Sun Times. I am a bit surprised it was not picked up here. In any event it is important that everyone lets him know that if they make this commitment there will be support across the Province.

  14. Great post above Robin on Tim Hudak’s interview yesterday.

    Quote: “I would eliminate these massive subsidties……………”

    When he blows into Dalton’s office in October, we can all celebrate on a buck a beer.

  15. Hopefully he sends McGuinty to the island of the misfit turbines with a hand full of earplugs and a good set of earmuffs so he can enjoy his legacy before the decommissioning starts.

  16. al, listen to the interview through the link posted by robin above to the end where you will hear exactly what RR claims

  17. al – listen to the last 30 seconds again Tim Hudak actually says “As Premier, I would eliminate these massive subsidies…”

  18. I have to disagree somewhat al. I am no PC but I find it hard to believe the conservatives ever would have gone down this path (not that there might not have been other paths they would have gone down that I would not have liked) for purely economic reasons. This is a source of energy that we do not need at a cost that we cannot afford. High energy costs are driving manufacturing out of Ontario. Let’s face it, none of this industry would be here without those massive subsidies. The subsidies are not sustainable. Anyone that is small c economically minded realizes this. We know that McGuinty cannot be trusted. The temporary moratorium is completely politically motivated. It is just as likely to be lifted after the election. What choice do we have but to go with the guy who at least says he will eliminate the massive subsidies. The Green Energy Act is bad energy and economic policy. A ten year old could figure that out. Sure elections are about getting elected. Go to that web site he mentions “Have your say” He is clearly looking for a mandate on these issues – rising electricity bills, corporate welfare, “green” energy.
    I would rather take a chance on that then the guy we know is determined to bankrupt us and destroy the rural landscape forever.

  19. maybe his office needs to hear the support from those outside of his riding…

    1-800-665-3697 Tim Hudak’s office

    Please make sure your comments are directed to Mike or Bob.

    I have asked Bob to confirm the comment, and what the implications would be for those projects already up or under construction come election time.

  20. No one should want the huge subsidies or the FIT or IWTs. Statements indicate movement in the right direction. Sooner or later FITs will be cancelled. The writing is on the wall.

  21. Hudak’s office cannot answer my question regarding subsidies for projects already commissioned or under construction, because they do not know yet what the answer is or will be.

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