MOE readings show shockingly high noise levels

Readings taken by MOE staff in Chatham-Kent at the home of David Libby. Decibel scale on the left, distance given 659m.   MOE comments: Wind noticeable from audio. It is hard to say, it is wind or wind turbine. May be we need to repeat measurement due to high humidity and rain.  (Click pic to enlarge)
Many turbines in Ontario are woefully out of compliance.  Call 1-866-663-8477 to file a formal complaint.

12 thoughts on “MOE readings show shockingly high noise levels

  1. “Is it wind or wind turbine?”, the MOE asks. Excuse me, wind turbine noise is nothing like wind noise. Apparently they are deaf, or they weren’t onsite when the recordings were made. If they had a audio recording of that period we could all ascertain the answer, but I’m betting that they don’t. And that is typical, there’s always some excuse to blame something, anything, else except their treasured turbines.

    • The blades are turning ~ 100 meters above the ground and this is where the sound is produced and would have to measured out in front of the blades at some specified distances to get decible readings.
      The sound waves produced by IWTs form a 3D “cone” shape say for example like an ice cream cone but up in the air ~100 meters and this sound “cone” moves around in a circle as the turbines turn into the wind. Electric fans also form “cones” of moving air out in front of them. The shape and size of the “cone” varies depending on the circumstances at any given point in time.
      These sound “cones” can and do converge when more than one turbines is operating. Sound wave convergence takes place just as beams of light converge. Try this with 2 or 3 flashlight beams at night just for demonstration of convergence.
      IWT “noise” is about much more than just decibles readings.

  2. no no no! 550m and all the noise is hush hush- certainly NOT more than 40dBA! How on earth could there be NOISE at 659m? [sarc]

  3. Noise travels a log ways depending on the circumstances. Also can be sound convergence when it is possible to get the “noise” from 3 turbines at the same location. Noise from two turbines impinging on people and homes would be common. This noise moves around as the turbines are turned. Try moving your speakers around the room and see what different effects you get depending on how the speakers are placed. For IWTs this includes infrasound.Can be enough to drive you batty.

  4. The turbine closest to where this testing was done, was not operating for several weeks afterwards, but now sadly I believe it is back to pumping out more noise pollution than electricity.

  5. To my understanding –
    every township has a noise bylaw – or they should.
    It was sort of designed with the understanding –
    of the ‘good neighbour policy –
    to handle annoying situations – to settle arguments.

    For example: constant barking dog, wild party,
    refrigerated truck generator running through the night
    (I know of one situation), and so on……

    Do we need MOE scientific reports to settle these situations?
    The answer is ‘no’.
    We use ‘common sense’.

    • an Obituary…
      Today we mourn the passing of a beloved old friend, Common Sense ,
      Who has been with us for many years.
      No one knows for sure how old he was, since his birth records were long ago
      Lost in bureaucratic red tape.
      He will be remembered as having cultivated such valuable lessons as:
      – Knowing when to come in out of the rain;
      – Why the early bird gets the worm;
      – Life isn’t always fair;
      – Do unto others as you would have done unto you; and
      – Maybe it was my fault.

      Common Sense lived by simple, sound financial policies (don’t spend more
      Than you can earn) and reliable strategies (adults, not children, are in charge).
      His health began to deteriorate rapidly with the governments ill advised pursuit of green energy ideology. He was sick to his stomach when he heard about the government’s insistence on replacing inexpensive, reliable energy sources with expensive unreliable “green” sources.
      Reports of the Ontario government paying 40 TIMES the market rate for solar generated electricity and 6 TIMES the rate for wind generated electricity. He developed a terrible migraine headache when he realized that the public and industry have yet to realize the ramifications of this policy on their bottom line.
      Common Sense lost ground when parents attacked teachers for doing the
      Job that they themselves had failed to do in disciplining their unruly children.
      It declined even further when schools were required to get parental consent to
      Administer sun lotion or an aspirin to a student; but could not inform parents
      When a student became pregnant and wanted to have an abortion.
      Common Sense lost the will to live as the churches became businesses;
      And criminals received better treatment than their victims.
      Common Sense took a beating when you couldn’t defend yourself from
      A burglar in your own home and the burglar could sue you for assault.
      Common Sense finally gave up the will to live, after a woman failed to
      Realize that a steaming cup of coffee was hot. She spilled a little in her lap,
      And was promptly awarded a huge settlement.
      Common Sense was preceded in death, by his parents, Truth and Trust,
      By his wife, Discretion, by his daughter, Responsibility, and by his sons, Reason
      And Respect.
      He is survived by his 4 stepbrothers;
      I Know My Rights
      I Want It Now
      Someone Else Is To Blame
      I’m A Victim

      Not many attended his funeral because so few realized he was gone.

  6. Wow, Ontario government still can’t measure the noise. And these incompetents want to make up Canadian guidelines? Anyone can follow the “rules” if there are no tools to measure. How about a real breathalyzer for these turbines?!!

    • Yeah- so can they or can’t they measure the noise of wind turbines?? This is so stupid. How on earth are we supposed to have any faith in the system if the can’t tell the difference between wind and wind TURBINES?? Ones a force of nature and the other is a huge MACHINE!

  7. What “high humidity and rain” was that MOE??????
    Environment Canada weather records for Dec16th from 1 am to 2 am for Ridgetown (within 5 km of the noise test) show 66 % Relative Humidity falling to 63% RH.

  8. Checked other Environment Canada data …
    ZERO mm of total precipitation on Dec 16 th 2011 at Ridgetown.
    Once again I ask the MOE….

    WHAT HIGH HUMIDITY and RAIN ???????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Time for a name change… MOE=
    Ministry of Enchantments
    or Ministry of Endangerment
    or Ministry of Evil-doers
    Take your pick!

  9. If you search the annual compliance reports on the Ministry of Environment website there have been no contraventions of noise levels from wind companies. There have been for other industry, but not for wind companies. We even have engineers documentation of contraventions but nothing recorded on the compliance reports.
    That’s because the field officer has to check a box on the incident reports to say if it is going to be reported and the box is always checked no.
    That sounds like suppression to me.

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *