46,000-acre wind farm proposed

MOE seeking input on the South Kent Wind Project – one of the largest in Ontario
By Ellwood Shreve, Chatham Daily News SUBMIT COMMENT
The Ontario Ministry of the Environment is seeking public input about a proposed 130-turbine wind farm, spanning from Tilbury to Ridgetown, making it one of largest in the province. The South Kent Wind Project, a joint proposal by Samsung Renewable Energy and Pattern Energy, includes the construction of a transmission line and two substations. The development has grown through the acquisition of other proposed wind projects in the area. Read article

Also in C-K: $300 million wind projects moving ahead

By Bob Boughner, Chatham Daily News
An additional 110 wind turbines will soon dot the Chatham-Kent landscape.  Initial work on the multi-million dollar project is underway, according to officials of International Power Canada.  But erection of the turbines isn’t scheduled to begin until mid-summer.  David Timm, the company’s vice-president of strategic affairs, told The Daily News that 55 wind turbines will be erected in south Chatham-Kent. An additional 55 will be built in north-west Chatham-Kent.  Read article

36 thoughts on “46,000-acre wind farm proposed

  1. Too Speechless in Ontario!

    ‘[excerpt] If approved, the South Kent Wind Farm will be the largest single wind farm
    to be constructed in Chatham-Kent, said Paul Lacina, the municipality’s director of building enforcement and licensing services.’

    http://www.chatham-kent.ca/default.htm

  2. Chatham-Kent posted one of the greatest losses in population in the latest Stats Can report…
    coincides with the arrival of a couple of hundred industrial turbines…now hundreds more planned… C-K will continue to move towards a wasteland unless the industrial wind injustice is defeated. Wake up C-K and get fighting!

    • Chatham-Kent posted one of the greatest losses in population in the latest Stats Can report…

      “Everything’s going perfectly to plan…”
      – Dr. Evil

  3. There is a single turbine in this project that will have 4 houses less than 550m. I will see about putting together a map with pictures and distances when I have a chance. They are already working on the site.

    And there is also this one:Chatham Daily News
    Initial construction begins (110 turbines)
    ENERGY: $300 million wind projects moving ahead
    http://www.chathamdailynews.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=3466927

    Quote from Mayor Randy Hope: “I am going to have 550 wind turbines in MY county” (couldn’t write ‘my’ big enough, he really does talk like that.)

  4. Thousands of acres becoming industrial acres for IWT’S won’t provide food for future generations. You can’t grow food on gravel roads or cement foundations or pavement.

    OUTRAGEOUS!

    • Where is the OFA on this? Is farmland important to Ontario at all? Do we even need by-laws for building anything in rural counties anymore? Never seen so much rural land deemed industrial. What a weird age.

      • Unfortunately, I believe OFA’s position was
        that they were not objecting to any projects
        already approved.

      • Unfortunately, OFA psition from day one should have been the preservation of cropland as its no 1 priority. The towers will one day be torn down, but the foundations are unlikely ever to be returned to agriculture. This is a tragedy for Ont..

      • Safe bet that the towers will be standing long
        after the sites cease to be operational. Who
        will pay for the eventual dismantling? Probably
        another line item on our hydro bill – dismantling fee.

      • No, this is not a “tragedy”. It is a well thought out attack on rural (and urban) residents of all western countries. This should give you a sense of why McGuinty won’t willingly stop. He thinks we are no longer his bosses, and that these people are:

        http://www.environmentalparliament.org/greenbonds/2011unsummit

        Monte Kwinter
        Chair Ontario Investment & Trade Advisory Council & Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Economic Development & Trade
        Ontario, Canada

        Bryan Fennell
        Vice President, Development
        NextEra Energy Resources

        Michael Garland
        Chief Executive Officer
        Pattern Energy Group

        James Kohlhaas
        Vice President for Energy Initiatives,Corporate Engineering and Technology
        Lockheed Martin

        H.E. Ban Ki-Moon
        General Secretary
        United Nations

        George Soros
        President
        Soros Capital Management

        Lou Jiwei
        CEO
        China Investment Corporation

        Tracy R. Wolstencroft
        Goldman Sachs
        Energy and Climate Finance VP
        …and
        Slap!!!
        George Papandreou
        Prime Minister
        Greece


        (more via above link)
        I just snipped out some relevant names

      • Oh yeah, Slap #2:

        Michael Picker
        Senior Advisor to the Governor for Renewable Energy Facilities
        Office of the Governor, State of California

      • Slap #3
        Government of Ontario is one of the
        sponsors of the summit.

  5. I’m forgetting about the OFA , Wales was summons to Energy Minister Bentley’s office 2 days after the OFA announcement on turbines. Wales won’t be saying anything more to help us , he was mostly likely told what to do or else, like we all are.

  6. I’ve got my problems with the Ontario Wind Resistance group, but I can get behind you on a few points. It’s always been my opinion that you can’t have a conversation/negotiation if you’re simply unwilling to accept the other sides opinion. Unfortunately for some of you here, wind turbines will be built, so posting a completely unified front against ALL developments is simply not conducive to getting your points (as valid or not, as they may be) across. You have to be willing to give a little to get a little, and being staunchly militant against wind turbines may be a noble cause, but at the end of the day, I feel that more harm is being done to your movement than good.

    As a wind supporter myself, I simply can’t get behind this project. Listen, I like the idea of wind and solar energy, but there have to be limits on what is acceptable. The fact that the Chatham-Essex area will soon be covered by 300 or so turbines is simply ridiculous.

    I am far more in favor of small, scattered developments. If you use the model taken by Saturn Power or Schneider Power (10MW or so ~ 5 turbines), and you mix it with local ownership, I feel that the amount of vitriol spit at wind turbines and the province/developers will drop significantly.

    It is simply ridiculous to think that a community should have these dropped on them, with no local oversight, and not give that area the chance to reap a portion of the reward from their existence.

    I live in Haldimand County, where Samsung/Pattern is building a similar project, but given the fact we have only a handful of turbines (maybe 5-10?) currently operating in our County, my dislike for that project is significantly reduced. I’d ideally like to see the County take some ownership of this project, and to redistribute the profits generated for community projects (new arenas, infrastructure, etc.) For Chatham-Essex to have almost 300 turbines in various stages of operation/development, and to not give the community access to the profits, is simply unacceptable.

    So, yes, I would say I’m a wind supporter, with an asterisk. There is a good/better way to develop these projects, and regardless of what Pattern/Samsung or the province think, developing 150 turbines down a 50km stretch of the 401 is not making them many friends in that area of the province.

    So I ask the question: Is Ontario Wind Resistance completely opposed to the development of any turbines in the Province, or would there be a way to make them more palatable to your followers? (local ownership, further setbacks, offshore, etc.)

  7. I think that the depopulation of CK is more due to the industrial sector slowing down. Some big factories shut down there in the last 10 years. There is lots of work out west though.

    • RodgerDodger said “There`s lots of work out west though”.
      Yes, as usual there is. But a word of advice, for those thinking about going west, you`d be well advised to change your truck licence plates over to Alberta (If that`s the prov. you choose of course) and don`t advertise that you`re from Ontario. If they suspect that you re-elected McGuilty, they`ll think you`re an absolute idiot, or a liar & thief and you`ll not get hired.
      If you have to admit being from Ontario, be sure to inform them that you didn`t/don`t support the McStupid Lying Liberal government, but rather voted for a good, honest, Hudac Conservative gov.
      That way they`ll know that you`re an honest,intelligent & hard working individual.
      As an aside:
      One problem (for Ontario) with our younger folk moving west for work, is that the best and brightest succeed and prosper and become permanent residents, while those who couldn`t make the cut, return home. Which explains why Alberta is leaving Ontario in its dust economically and otherwise. They don`t have to keep changing political stripes of governance, like they do in Ontario, they need only look at the mess made by Lying Liberal governments of Ont., Quebec & B.C.,Canadas 3 worst provincial governments, environmentally, economically & criminally.

  8. 46000 acres of SW Ontario… now soon to be the bread (or soy) basket of Korea. 1st they lease the land, put up noise polluting turbines to drive you out, buy up the land …put up bigger turbines to be sure everyone (even leaseholders) has to sell out to them… then take all the food they grow and whatever else they can rape and mine back to Korea

    • Kind of ties in nicely with Galen Weston’s casual remarks this week that Farmers Market Food will one day kill someone!
      Of course, President’s Choice frozen foods are SO MUCH fresher and healthier than “home grown” food isn’t it?
      Too bad what’s inside the box isn’t as good looking as the picture on the front.

      • We don’t heed all that farmland to grow food. How silly of us! We can just import all of our food from China….Mmmmmmmmm…..

    • …put up noise polluting turbines to drive you out, buy up the land…

      Now that my fellow Wind Warriors is exactly why this is happening…giving away or own money to do it ;(

      • There hasn’t been a Premier to do so much damage to farmers and rural lands in such a short time, as McGuinty. Chris Bentley still says they are going full steam ahead. Cruelest governing party with most lasting damage.

  9. This why it is so important that people affected by or will be affected by IWTs understand the different underlying mathematical issues involving IWTs. Otherwise the present government and wind developers will be able to continue fooling rural Ontarians.
    IWT sound/”noise”/health issues involve much more that just using decibles alone as a measurement for safe distances from IWTs.

    • Sound is a natural phenomenon which can be explained in mathematical terms. Sound “dead” areas can and do occur so people who say they don’t hear turbine noise/not affected are likely telling the truth as they are in a “dead” sound area. All just part of the sound phenomenon picture.

  10. “Who will pay for the eventual dismantling?
    In all fairness, the bill would go to the Liberal party of Ont. In reality it will go to the taxpayers and the wrecking bill will greatly exceed the cost of construction. At this point, the wind companies will have long gone bankrupt, or retreated to Europe, they will not be answerable for the bill.

  11. This municipality is doomed !! who would want to live here, our elected officials have and are continuing to vandalize our rural landscape..,the night sky littered with red lights..,this is a formula for a major disaster.Think about it,,with the rising hydro costs what incentive and advantage would a business come establish itself in Chatham !..Taxes have risen here and will continue to rise to make up the shortfall of revenue when all affected residents petition MPAC for 20 to 25 % tax cuts on their property because of loss of value..We have the best farmland in all of Canada ,lets focus on agribusiness and food production and forget about turbines,,,fight to save our community if its not too late……….

  12. For anyone who is into lots of numbers, I’ve got a spreadsheet that takes the UTM coordinates of the turbines and receptors and calculates the distances to all the turbines, including the shortest distance. From Hatch’s noise study, I get 130 turbines, 3246 receptors, of which 76 are less than 550 m from the closest. If anyone wants the spreadsheet (excel 2003) let me know at windfarmrealities.org.

  13. BUMP…

    Tom Blacksmith says:
    02/10/2012 at 12:48

    No, this is not a “tragedy”. It is a well thought out attack on rural (and urban) residents of all western countries. This should give you a sense of why McGuinty won’t willingly stop. He thinks we are no longer his bosses, and that these people are:

    http://www.environmentalparliament.org/greenbonds/2011unsummit

    Monte Kwinter
    Chair Ontario Investment & Trade Advisory Council & Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Economic Development & Trade
    Ontario, Canada

    Bryan Fennell
    Vice President, Development
    NextEra Energy Resources

    Michael Garland
    Chief Executive Officer
    Pattern Energy Group

    James Kohlhaas
    Vice President for Energy Initiatives,Corporate Engineering and Technology
    Lockheed Martin

    H.E. Ban Ki-Moon
    General Secretary
    United Nations

    George Soros
    President
    Soros Capital Management

    Lou Jiwei
    CEO
    China Investment Corporation

    Tracy R. Wolstencroft
    Goldman Sachs
    Energy and Climate Finance VP
    …and
    Slap!!!
    George Papandreou
    Prime Minister
    Greece

    (more via above link)
    I just snipped out some relevant names
    Tom Blacksmith says:
    02/10/2012 at 12:59

    Oh yeah, Slap #2:

    Michael Picker
    Senior Advisor to the Governor for Renewable Energy Facilities
    Office of the Governor, State of California

    madasabat says:
    02/10/2012 at 13:48

    Slap #3
    Government of Ontario is one of the
    sponsors of the summit.

  14. For anyone who is into pictures I’m busily creating Google Earth kml files for “all” of these projects. The picture is already pretty scary and I’m just halfway into it. As an example, one of the South Kent turbines, P062, is within 200m of the 401.

    • Wayne:

      See if you can track the “Z” parameter or “Height” as well. Then maybe we could run it through the noise calculation formulas. I have everything I need to set up the calculation…

      It would be interesting to see how that compared to reality and what the variance in the calculations might be.

      I have all the calculation parameters at my office but not here 5000km away. I should be back sometime soon, maybe, maybe not…

  15. Thanks guys!!! Using these kinds of approaches will show everyone what is really taking place. Takes the guess work out of the IWT situation.

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