Mainstream planning projects in Lambton

enniskillen-windBy Paul Morden, Sarnia Observer
John Barros says it’s time for a new, and less divisive, approach to building wind farms. The senior project development manager for Mainstream Renewable Power said he wants everyone within the boundaries of its proposed Sydenham wind projects in southeastern Lambton County to be able to benefit from them.

That why, for the last six months, he and Mainstream have been talking about sharing some revenue from its wind projects with all landowners who sign up, and not just those who end up with turbines. He’s also talking about setting up a community energy co-op that residents of the project area can invest in. “It takes a community to develop a wind farm,” Barros said. “The minute you get off that concept, is the first step toward a project failing.”

Barros and Mainstream have been working for five years on its Sydenham proposals to erect turbines in two or three phases that would generate a total of about 167 megawatts of electricity. In that time, opposition to wind farms has taken hold in rural communities. Ontario’s push into renewable energy is at risk of falling, along with the Liberal minority government and a provincial deal with Samsung that ate up transmission capacity west of London. Read article

15 thoughts on “Mainstream planning projects in Lambton

  1. Lip Balm Barros!

    ‘[excerpt] “Let me put it to you this way, the only people that have ever had health problems are people who don’t have a turbine on their property.”

    But, opposition to wind energy can erode support among landowners who have signed up, and Barros said that has led to Mainstream taking its new approach.

    “Let’s go back and do what we should have done in the first place,” he said.

    “Let’s get community ownership, let’s get community acceptance.”

    Let’s go for Plan B –
    ‘[excerpt] “It takes a community to develop a wind farm,” Barros said. “The minute you get off that concept, is the first step toward a project failing.”

    Plan B – please

    • I’m sorry….but that fellow forgot to mention, that in spite of GAG CLAUSES, not allowing host farmers to confess to their illnesses, there have been many who’ve come forward to tell their stories. Another lie….added to the other lies…..and so on. Money cannot buy health. It is that simple.

  2. That means everyone will have a gag order so no one will get sick!!!???Is that not the belief that only people who do not get money complain! of illness!! I hope people do not fall for that one.

  3. Have options with most all of the people in an IWT project area and let them share in the project proceeds?
    This will not keep the property values from falling for those who don’t get final contracts and stop property values from declining.
    Those with final contracts will still get more money as the IWTs are on their land.
    Community based project will not stop property values from declining as those without final contracts won’t get enough money to attract new property buyers.
    Rural Ontarians need to do thier own cost analysis if they can get hold of the financial information. This is the reason why all the financial information won’t be disclosed.

    The Wolfe Isalnd financial information has surfaced and can be used to explain what’s going on here.

    Ontarians living in NextEra projects might want to consider buying one share of this stock in this company as this gives ownership in the company and as a stockholder they are entitled to company financial information.

    • Eco-nut activists buy shares in corporations and then proceed to have a say in corporate affairs.

  4. Sounds good,but I unfortunately could not buy shares in a company that I know is and has destroyed lives.

    • That’s not the issue here. Stockholders have access to corporate information which is badly needed here.
      Then when you appear before council with IWT objections you are not only a concerned resident but a sharehold/owner of the company too.

      • As a shareholder in a U.S. company you can go into the U.S. court system where people have much better access to the justice system and at a much lower cost to ask for company information or you can file a complaint with the U.S. Securities And Exchange Commission/SEC for failure to disclose corporate information.
        Other legal action might also be possible thru the U.S. Court Systems and again at much lower legal costs.

    • Nimby also stands for next it might be you, and once the government sees that it can get away with this type of dictatorial lawlessness, it will spread to issues that DO affect the people living in the cities. At that point, it will become an issue. It is always more important to consider the problems of lots of voters squished into urban areas. Votes are what they base their decisions on. Not morality, integrity, or decency.

  5. Plan “A” shove the IWTs up Rural Ontario folk’s buts
    Plan “B” still shove the IWTs up Rural Ontario folk’s buts using a little Vaseline
    It’s the kinder, “fair society,” approach of McGuinty’s hand puppet Wynne

    • Hey Jack
      You make a great point.
      Plan C = Just say ‘NO’

      ‘[excerpt] A wind turbine turns near Ravenswood in Lambton Shores. Mainstream Renewable Power is working on plans for its Sydenham wind projects in southeastern Lambton County. It now offering to share financial benefits from its projects to more residents of the community.’

      • When anyone accepts a financial share in IWTs it’s most likely that gag agreements will be part of the arrangement.

  6. Mainstream Renewable Power is doing exactly what the Canadian Ministry of Natural Resources has already bought into. There is a division of MNR known as CanMet. See what CanMet is all about at Farther into their web pages, they get to Wind Energy | Canada’s Wind TRM. TRM stands for Technology Road Map. On that page, there are references to two PDF documents. They are worth downloading and reading in their entirety. These guys have been planning and developing the integration of wind turbines into our society for a long time.

    From the second document, Download the Wind Technology Roadmap Appendices (PDF, 7MB) Go to Appendix B, and page 45 for starters. Here are a couple key items.
    “3.2 Inform and Engage Canadians

    What is Required
    The wind energy industry has the opportunity to leverage broad public support within
    Canada to facilitate integration of wind energy into Canada’s electricity supply. The key
    to cementing public support lies in its ability to provide credible and empirically-supported
    data to dispel misperceptions regarding wind energy and installations.

    Why Action is Needed
    More fulsome information on the real costs and benefits associated with wind energy, as
    well as better information on Canada’s competitive strengths, is necessary to encourage
    the investment of time, money and effort of government, industry, academia, investors
    and workers into wind energy. For example, with a significant proportion of small wind
    manufacturers being based in Canada, it is important to inform Canadians that in some
    respects Canada is already at the forefront of wind energy technology, but that greater
    support is needed, in particular from municipalities where by-laws and regulations can
    often impede greater penetration of wind energy. Equally important is the need to provide
    the correct signals to the current generation of students, namely that the wind energy
    industry is supported in Canada and that pursuit of wind energy-related education is a
    prudent choice. This will further the goal of developing a strong and highly-trained human
    capital base to serve wind energy operation, wind firming, manufacturing and other
    ancillary services required by the industry.

    Current Challenges and Barriers
    Key challenges in securing broad action-oriented public support for wind energy were
    noted across most of the working groups.
    • It is believed that the general public lacks a full understanding of the costs of
    traditional energy technologies and sources. By understanding the complete
    lifecycle and environmental costs of energy sources and their potential negative
    impacts, Canadians would be able to make more informed decisions on their choice
    of energy (WG1); [WG refers to Work Group. Work groups were set up to study and make recommendations for this report.]
    • While there is public support at a national level for wind energy, social acceptance
    of wind projects at the local level remains a concern; some Canadians want wind
    power, but “Not in my backyard” (the NIMBY phenomena) (WG3a);

    Key Action Items
    In order to promote wind energy as both an ecologically and economically beneficial
    industry in Canada, the public must be engaged by credible representatives of
    government, NGOs and industry that can provide the facts on wind energy. From a public
    and municipal government standpoint, resistance to wind energy must be countered
    with empirical evidence to build greater support for wind installations. The cost to initially
    provide documents to support the aforementioned goals, per target group, would likely
    be modest; however, longer term maintenance and expansion of such documentation
    could cost from one to five million dollars per target group. From an economic standpoint,
    universities and other educational institutions must partner with industry to develop
    programs that will provide students with the skill sets necessary to meet the needs of
    the wind industry in Canada. The following table lists some of the action items needed to
    meet these goals.

    Address public acceptance issues by developing public relations and communications material through industry associations and government programs (eg. campaigns against littering or smoking), with increased emphasis on jobs and economic benefit.

    Make promotional materials available to public schools to promote wind as a career option.

    How These Actions Will Contribute to Achieving the Vision
    Improved communication to the public, the workforce, financiers and government officials
    of the real benefits and opportunities for wind energy will create an environment wherein
    the broader population in Canada will commit funds, time and energy to the advancement”

    These are exerpts from the PDF. Remember George Smitherman? He reminded the Ontario Liberals, a year ago last December, that it was also necessary to engage the public
    to become stakeholders, to help gain acceptance of wind energy.

    This wind development roadmap goes back to 2008, and is still on the MNR web site today. Mainstream Renewable Power is just following what has been prescribed over 5 years ago. We’re not just countering Mainstream, or the GEA, or the Ontario LIberals, we have the Federal MNR in line with them.

    Does the federal health study stand a chance of being totally scientifically based, and unbiased?

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