Why wind turbine sounds are annoying, and why it matters

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60 thoughts on “Why wind turbine sounds are annoying, and why it matters

    • Do you live near one? Its the Infrasound that causes Health affect form them. You should ask people that live near them before making a statement they are not annoying, and not to mention the shadow flicker over some homes.

  1. Someone asked, is it true, Mr. Palmer, a licensed Professional Engineer in Ontario published a report about the University of Waterloo’s rPhil Bigelow, among others, getting caught misrepresenting their own research results?

  2. Green-minded debunkers are a dime-a-dozen. Do they know that there are over 850 filed noise complaints in Fairhaven, MA alone that are being ignored by their officials? The debunkers should be asked if they have spoken to any of the residents who are forced to live near the wind turbines. What have those people been going through?
    Why have their lives been turned into a nightmare? To satisfy your need to charge up your cell phone and your portable computer?

  3. For people who do not understand the basic physics of sound and how it has been used and is being used to manipulate comfort levels, here is some information to fill the knowledge gap.
    http://howgreenisthis.org/noise-torture-inaudible-sound/#sthash.6SxvIUmd.dpbs

    Bill Palmer’s paper speaks to the averaging of noise level irregularities ( a tactic used by the MOECC’s and the wind companies assessments of sounds registered during onsite, long term acoustics testing). Using this tactic provides them with a way of delegitimizing the day to day real life disturbances that residents are forced to cope with. This is unfair and this tactic needs to be exposed fully. The person within the MOECC who is responsible for creating this ‘policy’ needs to be named. The responsibility of all government agents in this country is to protect all citizens.
    Thank you Bill Palmer for your enormous effort and for your sincerity and respect toward people who are enduring the torture.

    • Professional Engineers Ontario
      Directories of Practitioners

      License Holder/Engineering Intern Profile
      If information is inaccurate or missing, contact PEO’s Document Centre

      First Name: Victor
      Last Name: Low
      Licence Number: 90333881
      Licence Type: Professional Engineer (P.Eng.)
      Practising Status: Practising
      Licence Status: Current
      Date of licensure: Dec 14, 1993

      Chapter Profile
      Primary Chapter: West Toronto, West Central Region

      Employment Profile
      Employer Name: United Nations Environment Programme
      Business Address: 15 rue de Milan 75441 Paris CEDEX 09
      City: Paris
      Country: France
      Phone Number 144377629

      Academic Profile
      Academic Discipline(s): Chemical Engineering
      Degree: Bachelor of Applied Science
      Institute Name: University of Toronto
      Country: Canada
      Date of Graduation: Jan 06, 1990

      ===================================

      “How the Wind Industry Rigged Noise Rules to Get Away With Murder”

      StopTheseThings dot com

      • But evidence remains from 2009 when Mr. Victor Low, P.Eng., was a fiduciary for Ontario’s Ministry of the Environment, as it was known then.

        Following is a string of correspondence between Mr. Victor Low, Mr. Gary Tomlinson, Ms. Jane Glassco, Mr. Bill Bardswick and Mr. Ian Greason from some 8 years ago. Believe it or not, the underlying issues are not resolved yet. And if there had been, for example, a Health Protection and Promotion Act Investigation, many of the projects plaguing persons today would not have been constructed.

        Don’t be fooled. While these public servants paid for by taxpayers purportedly exist to protect the people of this great nation, early on they found themselves accused of gross negligence and fraud and all ’round shameful behaviours they try hard every day to ignore, cover-up, deny and pretend haven’t happened. They have been pre-meditating their Defense strategies all along, raping as much cash as they can for now and hoping they’ll succeed at laundering the offenses they committed. They are betting against human ingenuity, and treating you like you’re stupid.

        Try to comprehend that Ontario’s Ministry of the Environment was approving industrial wind energy projects in residential neighbourhoods, knowing they were unable to enforce non-compliant operations. They lied and said “the state of the science” didn’t permit them to be able to determine whether projects were compliant or not. So then, one wonders, how could they justify inflicting such risks on the environments including persons including children?

        Hence, “the sky is falling” narrative, pumped up by United Nations & company. They “couldn’t afford to wait to sort out the science.” “Full steam ahead or we’re all gunna die!” They are desperate to con vince the reckless risks they took were reasonable in such “dire” circumstances……

        Do fear-mongers bug you? Did you know, the Criminal Code of Canada defines that acts intended to alarm Her Majesty or break public peace are Crimes in Canada.

        “49 Every one who wilfully, in the presence of Her Majesty,
        (a) does an act with intent to alarm Her Majesty or to break the public peace, or
        (b) does an act that is intended or is likely to cause bodily harm to Her Majesty,
        is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding fourteen years.”

      • Shocked and Disgusted, you say, “Following is a string of correspondence between Mr. Victor Low, Mr. Gary Tomlinson, Ms. Jane Glassco, Mr. Bill Bardswick and Mr. Ian Greason from some 8 years ago. Believe it or not, the underlying issues are not resolved yet.”
        For some reason the comments you’re referring to haven’t been published here. It’s time to revisit all of this. In fact, it’s long overdue.

    • “The responsibility of all government agents in this country is to protect all citizens.” ;]
      I guess you did not get the memo,governments, DO NOT AND WILL NOT protect corporate registered citizens/slaves,period.
      There function/elected con artists is to protect the greater lucrative ponzi schemes and just to allow a little freedoms for there slaves on there farms/juris fictions.There bosses are hiding like spineless creepy maggots behind the veils eating off our flesh and bones.

  4. Here are video recordings of the Oct 26th 2017 meeting at Huron County Health Unit.

    Dr Bokout (MD) and Dr Erica Clark (PhD) explain to the citizens of Huron County how they will continue to study the already documented health harm. Further they tell the citizens that the Huron County Health Unit lacks the authority to turn off wind turbines.

    The video is in four parts,
    https://cs.uwaterloo.ca/~mannr/Oct26-part1.mp4
    https://cs.uwaterloo.ca/~mannr/Oct26-part2.mp4
    https://cs.uwaterloo.ca/~mannr/Oct26-part3.mp4
    https://cs.uwaterloo.ca/~mannr/Oct26-part4.mp4

    Richard Mann
    Computer Science
    University of Waterloo

  5. Here are video recordings of the Oct 26th 2017 meeting at Huron County Health Unit.

    Dr Bokout (MD) and Dr Erica Clark (PhD) explain to the citizens of Huron County how they will continue to study the already documented health harm. Further they tell the citizens that the Huron County Health Unit lacks the authority to turn off wind turbines.

    The video is in four parts (remove spaces from links):
    cs. uwaterloo. ca/~mannr/ Oct26-part1.mp4
    cs. uwaterloo. ca/~mannr/ Oct26-part2.mp4
    cs. uwaterloo.ca/~mannr/ Oct26-part3.mp4
    cs. uwaterloo.ca/~mannr/ Oct26-part4.mp4

    Richard Mann
    Computer Science
    University of Waterloo

  6. UN IPPC / (SRREN) Report published, Jan. 2012

    By Chapter: Select any chapter you want to read including the Annexes.

    ‘Special Report on Renewable Energy Sources and Climate Change Mitigation (SREN)’

    Has a chapter on “wind” which includes birds & bats and “human health” studies.

    http://www.ipcc.ch/report/srren

  7. Wind turbine sounds are cacophonic and very much discording to the ears.

    Day by Day the need for audiologists is increasing and organizations like Healthcare Marketers are helping people to get rid of their ear problems.

    It is high time that we consider the health of our children , if not ours.

    • Why are audiologists not speaking out about the rise in hearing problems? What about Meniere’s disease? Is this related to “extreme harmonic fluctuations”? Has anyone done an investigation on coroner’s records in the vicinity of industrial wind power stations?
      Why would health care workers in Huron County shout at someone to stop, who speaks about the connection between turbines and sleep problems and tries to announce the upcoming meeting regarding the study by the HCHU at a ‘Sleep Presentation’ at the Health Unit? Why would doctors in HC still be prescribing medications with serious side effects to people going to them for help with the well known symptoms of wind turbine harm?

      • Why would health care workers in Huron County shout at someone to stop, who speaks about the connection between turbines and sleep problems and tries to announce the upcoming meeting regarding the study by the HCHU at a ‘Sleep Presentation’ at the Health Unit?

        Because they don’t care that they are supposed to act professionally at all times. Possibly these people are suffering Denial. It is also possible they are being coerced or extorted. They are under pressure.

        Has anyone done an investigation on coroner’s records in the vicinity of industrial wind power stations?

        Volunteer firefighters in other communities in Ontario where harm is being caused by industrial wind turbine projects remark about all the suicides they are called in to assist with.

  8. Here is the statement on the PWU website:
    “Billions of dollars have been spent on intermittent wind and solar and for backup natural gas generation. These new sources of supply are heavily subsidized by ratepayers and are significant contributors to Ontario’s rising electricity prices.

    Unspecified costs for smart grid/emerging technologies and transmission/distribution infrastructure necessary for integrating and managing variable electricity production and changing consumer demand will drive the price /kWh up even further.

    By 2030, ratepayers and/or taxpayers will be paying for the decommissioning and waste management costs for some of this wind and solar generation.

    Building more wind and solar generation will increase GHG emissions. These intermittent sources require backup more than 70% of the time, a role played by carbon emitting natural gas generation.

    No more wind and solar generation should be built. Any future investments should be based on affordability, solid cost benefit analyses and realistic targets.”

  9. Will the WHO and the IPCC make the necessary changes in light of this recent news out of Australia?
    Australian Court Finds Wind Turbine Noise Exposure a ‘Pathway to Disease’: Waubra Foundation Vindicated

  10. “The applicant submitted that the evidence in the hearing provided plausible and credible evidence of the kind required. Counsel referred in particular to the effect of noise on sleep and, in particular, in disturbing sleep. It was not contentious that impaired sleep, if sufficiently serious, may result in a number of ailments and diseases. Professor Wittert said that “depression and sleep disturbance are, respectively, the first and third most common psychological reasons for patient encounters in general practice”. The professor went on to say that insomnia doubles the risk of future development of depression and that insomnia symptoms together with shortened sleep are associated with hypertension. Professor Wittert also said that a person suffering from restricted sleep is exposed to an increased risk of elevated blood sugar levels and endocrine disorders such as diabetes, symptomatic ischaemic heart disease, hypertension, obesity, insomnia and anxiety related illnesses.
    The applicant emphasised that Environmental Sleep Disorder has been recognised in the International Classification of Diseases, although there does appear to be some controversy about its existence as a separate and discrete condition.
    We also note that the evidence indicated that the annoyance resulting from noise during sleeping times may be greater for those with a noise sensitivity or who have become sensitised to noise.
    As our earlier findings have indicated, some wind farms generate sound which is capable of causing, and does cause, annoyance. We are further satisfied that annoyance of the kind which is generated (often associated with psychological distress and sleep disturbance), is a recognised pathway to a range of adverse health outcomes, including hypertension and cardiovascular disease.”

  11. News: via Scott Miller CTV Facebook (general link follows, I couldn’t get a link to the specific post):
    https://www.facebook.com/scott.ctv/posts/2011654378851517

    Potential Merger of Huron and Perth Health Units
    Takes Next Step

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
    Wednesday, December 13, 2017

    Perth and Huron Counties ̶ Yesterday, the Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care (MOHLTC) announced proposed regulatory changes to the Health Protection and Promotion Act, which pave the way for a merger of the Perth District Health Unit and the Huron County Health Unit. The changes need to happen before next steps in planning an amalgamation can move forward.

    “These proposed regulatory changes show that there is support at the provincial level for a Huron and Perth health unit merger,” explains Dr. Miriam Klassen, Medical Officer of Health for the Perth District Health Unit and Acting Medical Officer of Health for the Huron County Health Unit. The regulation must be passed in order to approve any funding for the merger.

    The Huron and Perth Amalgamation Steering Group and Boards of Health will be providing the government with additional details to put in the regulation, for example the name of the new health unit and composition of the new Board.

    “If the proposed regulatory changes pass cabinet approval in January, then we expect that the next step would be for the Ministry to approve funding for a merger,” says Dr. Klassen. “If the funding is approved, then the merger would proceed.” In 2017, the health units commissioned the Lough Barnes Amalgamation Feasibility and Planning Report, which would be used to guide the merger transition.

    The regulation changes are posted for public comment until January 4, 2018, prior to Cabinet approval.

  12. “These proposed regulatory changes show that there is support at the provincial level for a Huron and Perth health unit merger,” explains Dr. Miriam Klassen, Medical Officer of Health for the Perth District Health Unit and Acting Medical Officer of Health for the Huron County Health Unit.”???
    Dr. Miriam Klassen is now the Acting Medical Officer of Health for the Huron County Health Unit?
    Those who attended a meeting of the Huron County Health Board in the fall of 2016, when she was the Interim Medical Officer of Health after Dr. Janice Owen was suddenly replaced, shortly after she publicly declared that the ‘criteria for assessment’ had been met to launch and ‘investigation’ into the harm to health from industrial wind turbines, might recall that Dr. Miriam Klassen admitted she knew very little about industrial wind turbines and the harm they can cause. She gave her counsel to the Board, nonetheless, advising caution. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
    One would hope that she is aware of the recent court ruling out of Australia re: industrial scale turbines as ‘the pathway to disease’ and much much more that has been revealed since the fall of 2016.

  13. An Audit is Urgently Needed
    About the Huron County Health Unit’s
    Alleged Investigation of Wind Turbine Complaints
    per Section 11 of The Health Protection and Promotion Act of Ontario,

    and including how it relates to
    industrial wind energy proliferation
    across the whole Province of
    Ontario, Canada.

    “Investigate the Investigators”

      • Are people ready yet to listen to Rosa Koire talk about the “stealth plan” of the United Nations regarding Agenda 21/30?

      • Perhaps the issue is not the UN itself but the people that are running the UN?

        And some organizations and people affiliated with the UN?

    • Does anyone know what the qualifications are for members of a Health Board? They make life or death decisions. They ought to have medical or legal expertise before they make such decisions. The qualifications of the HC Health Board members need to be exposed.

      • What is your “local Board of Health”?

        What are the names of the members of your local Board of Health?

        How does a person become a member of your local Board of Health?

        Which “Qualifications” does a person require in order to become a member of your local Board of Health, if any?

        ——————————–
        Case Study: “The Haldimand-Norfolk Board of Health”

        “Norfolk County” and “Haldimand County” are two, separate, adjacent municipalities in Ontario, located on the north shore of Lake Erie.

        The two municipalities are separate organizations, and they share some things in common: for example, the Member of Provincial Parliament, Mr. Toby Barrett, represents the consistuents in Norfolk County and Haldimand County at the provincial legislature; Hon. Diane Finley would do the same at the federal level.

        Norfolk County and Haldimand County collaborate in the “Haldimand-Norfolk Health Unit” (“the HNHU”), the “Haldimand-Norfolk Health and Social Services Advisory Committee”, and ultimately the “Haldimand-Norfolk Board of Health”.

        The Haldimand-Norfolk Board of Health is comprised of all the elected members of the municipal council of Norfolk County. The elected Mayor of Norfolk County becomes the Chairperson of the Haldimand-Norfolk Board of Health. There are no representatives of Haldimand County on the Haldimand-Norfolk Board of Health: that’s just the way it is.

        Presently the Haldimand-Norfolk Board of Health is:
        Mr. Peter Black
        Mr. Doug Brunton
        Mr. Mike Columbus
        Mr. John Wells
        Mr. Harold Sonnenberg
        Mr. Roger Geysens
        Mr. Jim Oliver
        Mr. Noel Haydt

        Presently the Chairperson of the Haldimand-Norfolk Board of Health (and the Mayor of the Corporation of Norfolk County) is Mr. Charlie Luke.

        Mr. Charlie Luke’s predecessor, the immediate past-Chairperson of the Haldimand-Norfolk Board of Health is the former Mayor of Norfolk County (defeated in the last election), Mr. Dennis Travale.

        Mr. Dennis Travale has been advertising himself recently as “Dennis “Mike” Travale”. [LinkedIn].

        ——————————–
        ‘[excerpt] The Board of Health is governed by the Health Protection and Promotion Act. The Ontario Public Health Standards (OPHS) and Protocols published by the Minister of Health and Long-Term Care establish the minimum requirements for fundamental public health programs and services.

        The Board of Health consists of the Mayor and eight Councillors elected to Norfolk County Council. The Mayor is also the Chair for the Board of Health.’
        https://hnhu.org/about/board-of-health/

      • To my knowledge the members of the Huron County Health Board who presided over the decisions made at that time were:

        Chair T. Hessel
        Warden J. Ginn
        M. Cole
        P. Gowing
        D. Jewitt
        R. Rognvaldson
        R. Watt
        B. Vandiepenbeek

        How were these people chosen and what were their qualifications to sit on the Health Board?

      • Sommer, thank you for asking good questions. If you determine the answers as they relate to that particular board of health, please share if you’re up to it.

        Honesty is among the most important prerequisites for a member of a local Board of Health, in my opinion.

        Dishonesty should NOT be tolerated, in my opinion.

      • When the secretary of theHCHB was asked for this information on qualifications, she said she could only do this with permission from the HB and there would be a long delay until their next meeting.
        Local reporters were asked to expose the qualifications or lack thereof, of the members of the HCHB. Nothing has been done to date.
        Situations like this are what leads to a sense of hopelessness for residents being harmed.

      • Is it called the HCHB or the HC BoH?
        Do you know?

        # We Like Accountability

      • The Health Protection and Promotion Act of Ontario defines the Duty of board of health at Section 61:

        “Duty of board of health
        61. Every board of health shall superintend and ensure the carrying out of Parts II, III and IV and the regulations relating to those Parts in the health unit served by the board of health.”

        Part III of the HPPA defines the Duty to investigate:

        “PART III COMMUNITY HEALTH PROTECTION
        Complaint re health hazard related to occupational or environmental health
        11. (1) Where a complaint is made to a board of health or a medical officer of health that a health hazard related to occupational or environmental health exists in the health unit served by the board of health or the medical officer of health, the medical officer of health shall notify the ministry of the Government of Ontario that has primary responsibility in the matter and, in consultation with the ministry, the medical officer of health shall investigate the complaint to determine whether the health hazard exists or does not exist.”

        Section 67 makes it clear the Medical Officer of Health “reports directly” to the board of health:

        “Medical officer of health
        67. (1) The medical officer of health of a board of health reports directly to the board of health on issues relating to public health concerns and to public health programs and services under this or any other Act.”

      • Keep on providing what the “law” is to better inform the public about issues!

      • Section 12 of the same law, Ontario’s Health Protection and Promotion Act states:

        “Duty of M.O.H. re occupational and environmental health 12. (1) Every medical officer of health shall keep himself or herself informed in respect of matters related to occupational and environmental health.
        (2) The Ministry of the Environment, the Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care, the Ministry of Labour or a municipality shall provide to a medical officer of health such information in respect of any matter related to occupational or environmental health as is requested by the medical officer of health, is in the possession of the ministry or municipality and the ministry or municipality is not prohibited by law from disclosing.”

        So if a Medical Officer of Health begs off “I didn’t know that …, ” then maybe he is admitting to breaking the law.

  14. That U.N behavioural advisory suggests that by “simply by leveraging our current understanding of human psychology and behaviour” they will be able to affect the acceptance of their agenda.
    It’s time that we leverage our current understanding of human psychology and behaviour to expose the psychopathy behind the willingness to harm others. The order followers are complicit in this harm. Silence is also complicity .

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