McGuinty powers up a compromise on renewable energy plan

by Adam Radwanski, Globe and Mail
In a move that may be too little and too late for its rural Ontario critics, Dalton McGuinty’s government is set to compromise on some of the most controversial aspects of its green-energy strategy. According to government and industry sources, the long-awaited review of the province’s feed-in-tariff strategy – to be released next week – will significantly lower the premiums that have been used to attract wind and solar energy development.  Read article

18 thoughts on “McGuinty powers up a compromise on renewable energy plan

  1. Some compromise. Concessions will be applicable to
    very few ‘future projects’ as the industry and Ontario
    will be gutted by the time ‘already approved’ projects
    are constructed. Mc Guinty truely is a moron.

  2. McGuinty’s statement doesn’t pass the sniff test with the rural folk. I guess he figures the urban types will be stupider than he is. This man must be stopped.

  3. This S.O.B will do ANYTHING to stay in power…He knows the heat is on, so at the last minute, he’s hoping the people of rural Ontario will be stupid enough to fall for his last ditch effort of dangling a small carrot in front of them by saying he may give SOME municipal control back to the municipalities !! WTF !!!. And the new compromise will only apply to NEW contracts???? Another WTF!! We have to stop all his buddies that are being subsidized NOW !!..Last month, Ontario LOST over 5000 permanent jobs, while the rest of Canada created over 14,000 permanent jobs!! Where the hell is his head??McGreenty keeps trying to put the blame on anything he can, but never his own government’s sheer stupidity and lack of vision and concern for the people of this province, in particular, rural Ontario.. Mr. Kuster is correct..He MUST be stopped, , .The worst government in the history of Canada..What else is this S.O.B. tinkering with to piss the people of this province off even more that we don’t know about ?? I shudder to think about it..
    Canadians are a pretty complacent lot, in my view, a fact that we can be proud of, and not given to things such as civil unrest, but I think the day may be coming when that may change…You can only take it up the keester so long before it starts to hurt, and then >>>>>. you fill in the blanks..
    Nothing short of a complete repeal of the GEA will do,, NO compromises, nothing…History shows what happens to dictators.. I doubt his fate will be any different… Stay the course, rural Ontario !!

    • An Ontarian with brains and balls, OPA!!! You are dead on. That S.O.B. is a bully and a coward. He surrounds himself with goons; understandably so. I will come face to face with that bastard the day he is behind bars. It’s coming.

  4. Up until now the MSM has managed to keep a tight lid on the Ontario IWT fiasco but won’t be able to do so for much longer. And expect lots of pro renewable energy spin as this story unfolds
    Most of the IWTs will be installed in less than 5 years. So who do they think they are fooling?.
    It’s nonsense that Ontario will be able to “export” renewable energy expertise to other parts of the world. Many other countries have engineers who can do this same work.

      • The grid & smart meter expertise that Ontario hopes to “export” and not the assembly of solar and IWTparts.
        Even if you could “export” smart meter and grid expertise this wouldn’t produce very many jobs.

      • Smart meters were another expensive propogandic
        conservation boondoggle – more stupidity rather than
        expertise involved in that venture.

    • The plan also includes manufacturing more electric vehicles. However, the infrastructure to use electric vehicles is not in place and will cost many millions of dollars to put in place.
      If several homes in an urban block need to recharge electric vehicles those blocks will need re-wiring to provide enough power. Same with condo and apartment buildings. Are the people who can’t afford electric vehicles or who live in rural areas going to be made to pay for all of this re-wiring?

      • an email about an electric car

        Cost to operate a Chevy Volt

        Eric Bolling (Fox Business Channel’s Follow the Money) test drove the
        Chevy Volt at the invitation of General Motors.

        For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25 miles
        before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine.
        Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on the
        battery. So, the range including the 9 gallon gas tank and the 16 kwh
        batery is approximately 270 miles. It will take you 4 1/2 hours to
        drive 270 miles at 60 mph. Then add 10 hours to charge the battery and
        you have a total trip time of 14.5 hours. In a typical road trip your
        average speed (including charging time) would be 20 mph.

        According to General Motors, the Volt battery hold 16 kwh of
        electricity. It takes a full 10 hours to charge a drained battery.

        The cost for the electricity to charge the Volt is never mentioned so I
        looked up what I pay for electricity.

        I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16
        per kwh.

        16 kwh x $1.16 per kwh = $18.56 to charge the battery.

        $18.56 per charge divided by 25 miles = $0.74 per mile to operate the
        Volt using the battery.

        Compare this to a similar size car with a gasoline engine only that
        gets 32 mpg.

        $3.19 per gallon divided by 32 mpg = $0.10 per mile.

        The gasoline powered car cost about $15,000 while the Volt costs

        So Obama wants us to pay 3 times as much for a car that costs more that
        7 times as much to run and takes 3 times as long to drive across country.


      • This my friend…is the big scam. Hybrid vehicles too. The end-to-end eco cost…mining of the rare earth elements for the huge batteries and other base materials, processing, shipping, refining, shipping, manufacture, shipping, assembly, shipping, use of vehicle over its life time…and disposal…a Hummer is more eco friendly than any hybrid. The scam…people are conditioned to look at it for the time they use it…not the total impact. Awesome, it’s green, therefore you need to buy it. $OLD! Getting yourself a fuel efficient vehicle and properly maintaining it is being green. Buyers of hybrid vehicles only ‘believe’ they are being green.

        I have one friend who bought one of those stupid compressed air vehicles…she was soooo happy about the zero emissions and zero energy impact. That was until I brought her up to speed on how exactly the air gets compressed and the energy involved to do so. Once she figured out that a quality fuel efficient vehicle properly maintained would use less energy, she was not happy. When I asked her how much commission the sales guy made who sold her the ‘compressed air’ vehicle…I got my own personal ‘where to go’. 🙂

      • There is no way anyone pays $1.16 per kwh at any time of the year. that means the average monthly bill in Ontario would be over a thousand dollars.
        My last month bill was for 518 kwh metered useage the amount of the bill was $107.64
        which include taxes , delivery etc etc and that figures out to 20.72 cents per kwh.
        And where do you buy gas for $3.19 per gallon? the US – which means the Volt would get around 40mpg in Canada

      • Gas in the US last week was $3.80-$3.90/gal. It was ~ $3.20-$3.25 in December. So depends on when the Volt tests were done.
        Aside from the gas price, public charging stations will have to be installed. Most city/urban housing blocks do not have enough power to be able to charge more than a couple of EVs at 240 volts/high speed at the same time. Re-wiring of urban neighbourhoods will have to be done. The question is who is going to pay for all of the needed infrastructure for EVs? If the buyers of EVs pay for the needed infrastructure so be it but don’t expect those who can’t afford EVs to pay for this. Being green does not entitle some people to a free ride at the expense of others.

  5. mcguinty is a Liar always will be a disgusting Liar.
    respect does not exist with this person anywhere.
    we have to get rid of him now .
    I hope this lawyer going after mayor Ford right now
    has his sights on mc liar

  6. Unfortunately McTurbine does not seem to realize he is sitting on a powder keg.. If some loose cannon lights the wick, I have every faith that the hardy Canadian folks of rural Ontario will make the war of 1812 look like a tea party…THE BOSTON TEA PARTY! Our underground, rural Resistance ( OUR ) stands for Keep OUR Province Beautiful…or else eh!
    Our farmers dropped their pitchforks twice before and enlisted in WW1 and WW2 to stave off the invasion of our lands and the take over of our way of life. The destruction of our lands, our wildlife and our health was never an option. This is a corporate takeover of our lands, facilitated and forced by the rushed through Green Energy Act, by our elected representatives in collusion with lobbists and NGO’s and the wind and solar developers, many of whom are stakeholders in wind and solar projects. This is incestuious Fixed Insider Trading Contracts that wind developers will trade or buy or sell to each other as part of the overall game of carbon trading .
    The public response to this will be very interesting indeed.

  7. Really though, are any of us surprised? McWindy’s attempt to placate the rural dwellers? He must think we’ve all just fallen off of the turnip truck. Too little, too late, Dolton.
    Sure now that about 1/3 of the most beautiful areas of the province will be pockmarked by wind turbines and we are locked into sky high contracts is he making concessions. What a bunch of BS.

    As for trying to spin the job thing from short term into long term? Forget it. Ontario’s wages are much higher than in China for example. There is no way we will be able to compete. Not only that, the Ontario factories would need electricity to make the components and I am willing to bet that with just about the highest electricity rates in North America we’ll be SOL in this area too.
    Nice mess you’ve gotten us into Dolton. Thanks a bunch.

  8. This new sales pitch about reducing the FITs is geared to ignorant urban voters. Ignorant in the sense that the majority of urban voters don’t know anything about renewable energy,green energy products and green jobs.

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