Wind/solar companies upset about $100 million rule change

GreeninGreenEnergyby John Spears, The Star
Wind and solar power companies in Ontario say they’re about to be penalized $100 million by the agency that runs the province’s electricity market. The renewable energy firms say that’s how much they’ll lose if the Independent Electricity System Operator (IESO) restricts the flow of wind and solar power onto the electricity grid when the demand for power is low, but winds are high.

The companies have filed an application with the Ontario Energy Board asking it to force the IESO’s to review its new rules, which they brand as discriminatory and “nothing less than a reversal of government policy.” The new rules, they say “are designed to fundamentally change the bargain” for renewable energy firms.

The IESO, for its part, has estimated that there will be a general benefit to all electricity users of as much as $225 million a year if its new rules go into effect. The dispute centres around the way most wind and solar power flows onto the grid. Most electricity generators are “dispatchable,” which means they tell the IESO at what price they’re willing to sell power into the market. Read article

15 thoughts on “Wind/solar companies upset about $100 million rule change

    • Johnny-come-lately neglected to mention in his article that the problem of having to sell surplus power at a loss does not come as a surprise. In fact, was the reason so many technical experts didn’t support these green schemes way back when…

  1. So……..Now they’re going to be restricted as to the amount they’ll be able to steal at any one time. Sounds like either the scams may be getting too hot for some folks or the wells going dry. Maybe a falling out among the thieves one might think………………

    Keep your stick on your sign

  2. Pay up or get sued … either way the taxpayers and ratepayers get skewered. The government locked YOU into a 20 year contract. Did YOU sign up for that? The MAJORITY of us did not even vote for McQuitty so how is this legal, moral, ethical, or ????

    • If you vote, that is a tacit acknowledgement of the legitimacy of the system. If you don’t vote, you are taken to be uninterested. I used to ‘Decline to vote’ which they had to record separately but seems no longer to be an option. Next election, if they won’t accept my Decline to vote, I will tear the ballot in pieces or pull out my lighter and burn it.
      I would like to see a massive voter turn out but a refusal to vote – for the less agressive among us – at least spoil the ballot.

  3. The Star could try to include some facts in their story.
    http://www.mondaq.com/canada/x/218740/Renewables/IESOs+Renewable+Integration+Amendments
    Paid curtailment for wind and solar starting Sept 2013
    $100 million is actually $20 million over 5 years for the entire industry and the number is invented by the wind industry.
    And none of this is final yet.

    This could create enough uncertainty to scare away any new investment in the industry. However there is already 1500? more turbines already in some stage of development. It will also be a really bad symbol for the wind industry. People will see them and ‘those stupid things aren’t even running half the time’

  4. Any new bits of information released to the public to prove the inefficiency, ridiculous expense, and outright corruption behind the wind industry is a blessing. The wind companies can afford to publish lie after lie after lie, because they can siphon the money out of our pockets to pay for their deception. The public is being fleeced beyond comprehension, and told that it is GOOD for them…disgusting.

  5. I believe that 2011 excess power cost US $420M and 2012 jumped to $742M. With the rate of turbine expansion this cost will easily surpass a $Billion in 2013. It has been estimated that each turbine will be subsidized to the tune of $500,000 per year for 20 years X 1,800 turbines which is roughly $18B. Now you can understand the ant’s point of view just before it gets squashed. Remember that the number of planned turbines will skyrocket this figure. Who wouldn’t fight to keep the Mississippi of gravy trains running?

  6. Get Rid of the OPA –
    McGuinty’s temporary agency – building a road to hell

    ‘[excerpt] The question of compensation falls to the Ontario Power Authority, which holds the contracts with the renewable energy companies.

    Compensation talks with the energy firms are under way, said Kristin Jenkins, vice president of the power authority.’

    Again – Get Rid of the OPA

  7. I wonder if this means wind turbines will be turned off at night often enough to help non-participating receptors–er, neighbours–sleep?

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