Pilot Reacts To Turbine Controversy

B-17Plane21-620x400Trevor Thompson, Blackburn News
The turbines near the Chatham-Kent Municipal Airport pose a risk to air traffic. That’s the opinion of one of the B-17 pilots that flew into the airport Wednesday.

Grant Schwartz landed and took off more than a half dozen times. “My reaction is… you probably need a little bit more of a margin between wind turbines and airports,” says Schwartz. “You have to decide what your priorities are going to be.” Read article

16 thoughts on “Pilot Reacts To Turbine Controversy

  1. If this is put into perspective this airport is a Canadian airport and not a French airport.

    So Canadian regulations apply and are not subject to what a foreign corporation wants.

    Doubt that the vast majority of people in C-K even know who owns GDF Suez and the MSM has not informed people of this as far as I know.

    • This is between France and GDF Suez – to figure out;
      and, since France loves Canada –
      one can only – imagine – what they’re talking about.

      Then there’s mayor Randy Hope – a complete embarrassment
      but, now – on the international stage.

  2. And if you fly in from the no fly zone in the winter as you wings are icing up this may be the ONLY chance you have to save your life and those on board. I still doubt too many provincial or municipal politicians really care anyway. Remember that when they are doing some BS public promo that you can treat them the same way. Especially when MSM cameras are rolling. Scum will always be the same. And elections are aproaching too. Remember. Remember. Remember. And tell 2 friends

  3. Considering it takes only a few days to put up a wind turbine, it’s hard to understand why Transport Canada has given GDF Suez six months to take down these illegal wind turbines.

    Anyway – is there any update about the GDF wind turbines in France that were ordered removed by a French court ~ a year ago?

    • Maybe the C-K airport should be shut down until these IWTs are removed? That might speed things up.

      At least that would take the C-K rate-payers off the hook if there was an accident in the mean- time.

  4. A friend just called the Chatham-Kent Municipal Airport. Sean answered the phone, and when it was asked with whom would one speak about the wind turbines that had been built too close to the airport, Sean laughed and said, “I’m not sure if you can talk to anyone here about that.” Then he got Marion on the line.

    Marion was asked the question, “who has liability if there is an accident caused by the illegal wind turbines?” and Marion responded, she did not know.

    Then it was asked, “have you considered shutting down the airport until the illegal wind turbines are removed?” and Marion, replied, “Why?” The reporter indicated that there is the opinion that this would relieve Chatham-Kent taxpayers of liability if there is an accident caused by the illegal wind turbines.

    Marion said “all the risks have been mitigated” and then suggested to speak with John Norton, legal services for C-K.

    Marion was asked, “what does it mean – ‘all the risks have been mitigated’?” and she said Mr. Norton could explain all that.

    • Gee Whiz!
      “All the risks have been mitigated!”
      because some lawyers got together – and said so.

      Meanwhile, wind turbines were built illegally
      –breaching the standards of the day–
      while earning monies from government-electricity contracts.
      And there is no penalty enforced to remedy costs for taxpayers.

      How’s that – for accountability?
      Under the leadership of the Stephen Harper government.

      • Oops! forgot to mention:

        Rest In Peace
        “…killed when the airplane ran into a wind turbine…”

  5. C-K owns the airport and if an accident occurs due in any part to the offending IWTs then C-K can be made to pay and those that will pay are the ratepayers if there is not enough insurance coverage to pay-off.

    But a very good idea to look into this matter and clarify the issues for the public.

  6. Global News, July 21, 2014

    “puts the province at a competitive disadvantage, airline and airport officials say”

    Phase in a 4c/liter tax increase by 2017 up from 2.7 cents per liter at present


    The problem with increasing sales taxes is that people find alternative means to not pay increased sales taxes.

    The government budgets in this new tax increase as if they really can collect all the expected money but this doesn’t happen because people find ways to avoid paying increased taxes.

    Then the budget ends up in a shortfall and more money has then has to be borrowed to make up the shortfalls in expected revenues collected.

    The government acts as if the public doesn’t understand this and it’s true that a lot of people don’t understand this.

    Shop smart! Cut the amount of money supplied to QP.

  7. “Investigation launched into hydraulic oil leaks at Ocotillo wind facility”
    (with thanks to National Wind Watch: filed: July 22, 2014 – California)
    Credit: By Miriam Raftery | East County Magazine | July 22, 2014 | eastcountymagazine.org

    A Summary of Violations has been issued to Ocotillo Wind Express (OWE) for alleged violations of state law due to hydraulic oil leaks observed during a complaint investigation, Sandy Nax at the Department of Toxic Substances Control with the California Environmental Protection Agency in Imperial County confirmed today. The confirmation came in response to an inquiry from East County Magazine to Roger Vintze at the department, asking what steps the environmental agency is taking to address complaints and photos from residents documenting hydraulic fluid leaks from gear boxes at numerous wind turbines in the project.

    Residents have documented oil leaks at over 40% of all turbines on the project. Now, they are voicing concerns voice concerns that oil leaks could contaminate the town’s only supply of drinking water.

    “We worry that in time it’s only going to get worse as these turbines age,” said engineer and Ocotillo resident Jim Pelley. He fears that in the future, turbine leaks could pollute the federally protected aquifer, or underground water source. “No water – no town. If the water gets polluted, all homes in Ocotillo could be red-tagged,” said Pelley.

    Nax said a Summary of Violations is “more formal than a citation” and that OWE is “addressing” the alleged violations. “We are continuing the complaint investigation on these allegations and other violations,” Nax said.

    Nax added, “We have directed OWE to remove the contamination containing used oil and handle it as hazardous waste. WE also asked OWE for an explanation as to why the oil is being released, and to remove any additional oil as it is discovered.” OWE has also been asked to supply the state agency with the Material Safety Data Sheets for the hydraulic oils.

    Despite residents’ understandable worries over water quality, when asked if water in Ocotillo has been tested recently to see if these oil leaks have gotten into the water supply, Nax replied, “No. The groundwater depth varies in the area (it is as deep as 300 feet on the western edge), but our investigation has not revealed evidence that it moved beyond the surface.”

    It was not clear how, without testing, the agency can determine that none of the clear hydraulic oil has penetrated deep below the water’s surface.

    Thus far, the state has not made a finding of an imminent threat to public health and the environment. But Nax added, “If this changes, DTSC could move to require that OWE cease operation of one or more turbines.”

    Park Ewing, a former construction manager who lives in Ocotillo, estimates that least 40% of the projects 100 or so turbines have oil leaks at any one time. “We began noticing oil leaks running down the towers from the nacelle,” he said. “Turbine 91 was the first of many oil leaks to follow. Recently we have seen a different oil leak that comes from the hub and runs down and around the blades.” He listed some of the worst turbine oil leaks, with photos and turbine numbers to document the evidence at approximately 40 turbines.

    Ewing added, “I believe all of the turbines leak oil,” though not all are doing so presently since some have been repaired or recently had new gear boxes installed. “The oil is very clear and normally becomes easily visible when the blowing sand and dust sticks to the oil.”

    Pelley said a company called Sky Climber has been hand-cleaning turbines “just about every day,” adding that it can take 4 to 5 days to clean those that are severely soiled especially if oil is on the blades. The area has been plagued by severe dust storms, leading Pelley to speculate, “It appears that the heavy dust storms are affecting the turbines,” adding that many leaks appeared after the dust storms, along with “grease spots on the towers.”

    Residents also allege that workers for Siemens, the turbine manufacturer, attempted to cover up the oil leaks.

    On November 5, 2013, Pelley observed, “Yesterday, Siemens workers were seen with shovels covering oil that had been sprayed out of wind turbine #11. The oil was seen in an area approximately 50 x 50 feet or more on the turbine pad and out into the undisturbed desert. The workers were working in the restoration area that is clearly marked to stay out. Today, I was at this site and I could actually see oil running down the tower while the turbine continued to run.”

    Darin Sefcik, a local photographer, has documented yet another source of oil leak, sending a photo showing a water truck on the project site leaking oil, with “no oil pan under the truck.”

    Pelley responded, “It seems like the workers have absolutely no concern for oil or diesel spills from what I have seen.”

    Oil isn’t the only chemical contaminant plaguing neighbors of the wind project. The same state environmental agency has previously confirmed that a white, sludgy foam seen washing across the desert, streets and lawns in Ocotillo during construction was a dust suppression chemical.

    Last week, on July 14 Pelley sent photos showing a similar occurrence, with masses of the foaming, brownish-white sludge massed around turbines and across the desert flow, also flowing down waterways that feed into the town. Yet to date, no cleanup has been ordered of this contaminant either, despite the fact that the chemical become flammable when it dries out.

    Edie Harmon, a biologist and Ocotillo resident, wants to know why so many turbines are leaking oil and being replaced less than two years after the project was built. “Somehow the concerned public deserves honest answers,” she writes, “because these monster machines are located on the federal public lands managed by the Bureau of Land Management (BLM).”

    Residents have tried complaining to the BLM. Ewing observed, “We can’t get any help out here.” One BLM employee, asked about the leaks, referred residents to a public relations office for the Bureau. “This guy is a temporary employee and scared to death of losing his job,” said Ewing.

    Pelley said he and other residents have complained to “just about everybody we could think of” including the county, federal BLM officials, an environmental justice task force, and the state environmental agency. “Typically, we don’t get any replies back from our e-mails.”

    Though the complaints have been well-documented with photos and videos now for many months, still the turbines remain in operation, spewing oil into the environment and white sludge with seemingly every major rainfall—all atop the town’s only source of drinking water.

    • The Ontario Ministry of the Environment and Ontario Ombudsman Andre Marin knew about GDF Suez’s oily wind turbines.
      What did they do about it?

      • Money buys silence!!!

        Besides, Ontario drinking water is not 300 ft down or am I wrong about this?
        Used to be plenty of dug wells in Ontario in the old days. Sand points if you lived right near the Great Lakes shorelines.

      • Situation is that rural Ontarians are dealing with urban environmentalists who don’t know anything about ground water, wells and pumps.

        To them water comes out of a tap supplied by Lake Ontario. Yet they get to dictate what rural Ontarians can and cannot do.

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