Environment Canada testing radar software to combat wind farms

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Environment Canada is preparing to roll out new radar 
technology in order to combat wind farm clutter, which clouds weather forecasts, misleads meteorologists and can even block radar signals. Jim Young, who works at the agency’s national radar program, said new software will be incorporated into Canada’s radar system this fall in an effort to address the “contamination” caused by wind turbines.

“I certainly have very high hopes,” he said, adding that Environment Canada has been concerned about wind farm clutter for years. The agency uses Doppler radar to predict storms, but the movement of wind turbine propellers can mimic weather. Young said accurate radar data relies on movement _ still objects including buildings, trees and towers are filtered out to allow for an analysis of the weather.

On its website, Environment Canada warns that the degradation of data can be “significantly misleading for forecasters under stormconditions.” Young said the disruption caused by wind farms is based on their proximity to radar sites. “The closer you get, that clutter becomes larger and larger,” he said.

In extreme circumstances, wind turbines can block radar scans, which Young compares to beams of light emanating from a flashlight. “If you put a large obstruction in front of your flashlight, you are going to create a shadow behind it, where you can’t see anything,” he said, adding that the same thing can happen when scanning wind farms. Read article

20 thoughts on “Environment Canada testing radar software to combat wind farms

  1. Should we even have to ask for our rights to be top priority over foreign wind companies greed???

  2. Whatever the costs of this new radar system are they will be borne by Canadian taxpayers so that developers can make money off from IWTs.

    Another way of cost shifting renewable energy costs onto taxpayers and letting developers and investors off the hook.

    • This new radar system must have been in the works for some time now.

      How long have the wind interests been working Environment Canada and/ or the federal government itself to get this done?

    • Yes, the nod has come from the federal government to accommodate IWT installations in Canada.

      Once one developer gets to “mitigate” IWT and radar problems then all the others will demand the same.

  3. There’s that “Nexterror” company again, working closely with the Min of Environment of course mitigating … another smoke and mirrors covering their butt.
    The “contamination” of the residents of rural Ontario, you know the ones who are becoming very ill and dying because of exposure to low frequencies and infrasound imposed on them by the industrial wind companies such as NEXTERRA.
    This too is a global issue. Our government and industrial wind companies are at fault for the illness and death of the rural people of Ontario. Our government and big wind industry has forced people from their homes. Our government and big wind company is responsible for the loss in equity of the homes of the people of Ontario. Our government and big wind is responsible for the rift that has developed in many rural communities and has torn apart families of the people of rural Ontario.
    This must end. Someone must pay for the damage and destruction that continues to destroy and kill the people of rural Ontario. Start with Mike Crawley and Dalton McGuinty – you have not been forgotten. PROVE that this is NOT happening. In the meantime shut down the industrial wind turbines. The people of rural Ontario need HELP. NOW.

    • Rural Ontarians are going to have to help themselves because neither the provincial nor the federal government is going to help you!

  4. Since this is money being spent to compensate for the disruption to weather monitoring by the wind plants, one can, of course, assume that the wind companies will be paying for it…

  5. Community organizer – and, the ‘tower of babel’;
    and if you’ve had problems communicating – your message,
    join Jutta – on her ‘magical mystery tour’;
    in pursuit of perfection.

    Wind supporter takes shot at wind fighters
    The Kincardine News

    Dear Editor,
    Our family attended several council meetings in the past because we truly care about our community and the many issues that determine our future.

    My children do not really like to come because of the hostile behaviour from some citizens and propaganda language being used when it comes to wind energy.

    They know that the term “industrial” as an adjective for wind turbines is the result of a series of focus groups financed by one of the Koch brothers as part of his opposition to a proposed offshore wind project near Cape Cod.

    At times we too feel misrepresented by our council and citizen representative but that is part of the process in real life.

    To attack a fellow citizen in public is just another step to divide our community.

    Please pick up the phone or even better go to the person that you feel has done something wrong and speak directly to him or her in a civil and rational manner. I know from experience that it can resolve many misunderstandings and lead to a better society.

    There were times when I felt as though the radio might be the safest way for me to express my views about renewable energy. Many friends of wind in Ontario are thinking that the greatest health hazard related to wind energy is speaking out in support for wind energy!

    ReNew Canada published a comprehensive report on wind energy in Ontario last year. Its conclusion states ” Wind Concerns Ontario could not adequately provide evidence to support its claims.” It has used material out of context, provided facts without support, and has firmly put the burden of proof on the proponents of wind rather than having to prove its own statements.”

    Look at the big picture of energy options that we are being offered right now, join hands, compromise and start developing a plan together!

    Jutta Splettstoesser

    …..and, running for municipal council.

    • I – Jutta


      “I” – in “IWT” – could mean

      “Illegal Wind Turbines”, or

      “Intentional Wind Turbines”, or

      “Inhumane Wind Turbines”, or

      “Idiotic Wind Turbines”, or

      “International Wind Turbine Racket”, or

      ‘[excerpt] It […] has firmly put the burden of proof on the proponents of wind’

    • Jutta rises to the top – confident –
      and, ready to battle
      climate change
      @ the local level of government.

      Addresses challenges – including – making it up!

      Celebrating Jutta!
      ……and, still running for council in Kincardine.

      • Wonder if Jutta knows the names of the billionaires who are funding the environmental movement?

        She could look this information up on the internet!

  6. The Koch brothers for sure have nothing to do with opposition to IWTs in rural Ontario.

    Doubt that most Ontarians even know who the Koch brothers are.

  7. For those who want to read technical Doppler radar information:

    Weather Radar:

    Scroll down about 1/3 of the page.

    Countries with higher water content storms, U.S.,use 10 cm wave length.

    Canada and other northern countries use less costly kind of radar, 5 cm, as the precipitation in such areas is usually less intense.

    But isn’t south and southwestern Ontario also in an area which has higher water content storms?

  8. Has anyone been following the big Detroit-Windsor flooding event this week which is now being blamed on climate change.

    But there was a similar type weather event/flooding (4.75 official inches) back in July of 1925 for this same area but that was not due to climate change?

  9. Barbara….. Of course, the flood of July 1925 was NOT “due to climate change”! “Climate Change” which may, or may not, be a recent phenomenon is a relatively recent challenge! It may soon be too late to address the problem and save the world!! We must ACT NOW or deal with the consequences ie; the destruction of life as we know it on the earth! Only the elimination of nuclear and coal-fired power plants and the addition and proliferation of IWTs, solar installations, mass transit, and electric cars can save us!! Your hard-earned tax dollars put to work! Sarcasm Intended!

    • Yesterday’s Windsor Star had quite a few photos of both the Windsor and Detroit flood situations.

      The new and under construction Herb Grey Parkway in Windsor was flooded and basements in south Windsor were flooded.

      Windsor does not have near as many railroad underpasses as Detroit has so Windsor was in much better shape in the road flooding respect.

      Southern Ontario often gets the moisture that comes all the way from the Gulf of Mexico as well as moisture off from the Great Lakes.

      Weather radar issues are important issues in Ontario.

  10. Would be a very difficult question for her to answer – if she’s gone.


    ‘[excerpt] The Transportation Safety Board releases its final report on the deadly train derailment in Lac-Mégantic, Que., on Tuesday, and the outgoing chair of the agency expects it to receive “a strong and positive response.”

    Wendy Tadros, who is stepping down from her role on Wednesday, spoke to CBC Radio’s The House and said she has been amazed at how much attention the story has generated over the past year.

    Forty-seven people were killed on July 6, 2013 when a runaway train carrying crude oil derailed and exploded in the heart of Lac-Mégantic.

    That disaster started a debate in Canada and the United States about the safety of transporting dangerous goods by rail. Changes have already been enacted, including tougher standards for the DOT-111 tanker cars that were involved in the Lac-Mégantic crash. The DOT-111s are considered the workhorse of the North American railway system.

    Behind the changes is the TSB. The agency is not only responsible for investigating accidents, but also conducts public inquiries and makes recommendations to improve the safety of transportation in Canada.

    Changes to rail safety

    Tadros joined the agency in 1996 and has been its chair for the past eight years. During that time she said the work and the professionalism at the agency has remained consistent but the way the TSB deals with the media and the public has changed.

    “I think the organization is better known by Canadians, the good work of the organization is better known. And I think we’ve found more of a voice to speak about the issues we feel strongly about,” she said.

    That assertiveness has led to more of the board’s recommendations being implemented. Tadros said during her first 10 years with the TSB about 46 per cent of its recommendations were being implemented. Now, thanks to greater pressure from the agency, a watch list that identifies safety issues, the TSB being visible at the accident site and being clear about what needs to change, that number has increased to 74 per cent.

    “I really would have liked to see it go to 80 per cent before I left, but 74 per cent is pretty good,” she said.

    Voice recorders in trains

    One of the recommendations Tadros is still pushing for is voice recorders to be used on all trains.

    “I’m very optimistic about that happening in the next couple of years,” she said.

    The problem right now is railways want to use voice and video recorders to punish people, but in order to be an effective safety tool, that should not be the case. For example, in the airline industry, there is an understanding that the voice recorders will only be used for safety purposes.

    Voice recorders on trains are voluntary and not widely used. Via Rail is considering a pilot project and the Rocky Mountaineer has recorders, but only in case of an accident.

    Tadros would like to see more recorders being used as part of the rail safety plan, so companies can look at what’s happening on trains, see if mistakes are being made and if those mistakes can be addressed.

    “They can learn before an accident happens,” she said.

    Changes still needed

    Aside from rail safety, Tadros said one area she still feels strongly about is improving the safety of smaller planes, because that is where many of the accidents are happening.

    She wants smaller planes to carry flight recorders and wants to see the safety around float planes improved, including installing shoulder harnesses in the back seats of float planes, something regulators have been unwilling to do so far.

    Kathy Fox, who is currently on the board, will take her place.’

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