The Ontario Liberals could have eliminated coal power without wasting billions of our dollars on so-called ‘green’ energy

Wynne2Lorrie Goldstein, Toronto Sun
TORONTO – 
Every time the Kathleen Wynne Liberals are called on the carpet over skyrocketing electricity prices in Ontario, they go into their patented, “but we eliminated coal” routine. Meaning they eliminated polluting coal-fired electricity and replaced it with “clean” energy sources such as solar and wind power.

So today, let’s expose this claim for the nonsense it is. When Dalton McGuinty and the Liberals came to power in 2003, they promised to close all of Ontario’s coal-fired electricity generating stations, which at the time were supplying 25% of Ontario’s power needs, by 2007. That was completely unrealistic and the Liberals didn’t in fact eliminate coal until this year.

Meanwhile, in 2014, wind and solar power provide about 4% of Ontario’s electricity. So even for the Liberals — whose math skills are not the greatest, as evidenced by the fact they’ve doubled Ontario’s debt to almost $300 billion since coming to power in 2003 — it ought to be obvious you can’t replace 25% of the system with 4% of it. Read article

16 thoughts on “The Ontario Liberals could have eliminated coal power without wasting billions of our dollars on so-called ‘green’ energy

  1. U.S. Department of Commerce, Washington
    International Trade Administration
    Industry & Analysis (I&A)
    Market Intelligence Brief, Canada, April 2014

    “No foreign market will attract more U.S. renewable energy, and smart grid equipment and services exports through 2015 than Canada.”

    14 page report that helps to explain the present renewables situation in Canada including Ontario.

    Puts the renewables situation in perspective and is information that was not available to most Ontarians until now.

    http://www.export.gov/build/groups/public/@eg_main/@reee/documents/webcontent/eg_main_075391.pdf

    What has happened in rural Ontario not due to bungling but was planned?

    Government documents such as this carry a lot of weight when explaining things to others.

      • Also note when reading reports/papers which “barn” the B.S. comes from.

      • Isn’t this 2012″ Invest in Canada” report official Canadian government policy?

      • “Planned?”

        Who are you asking this question of, Barbara?

        Vote-rich groups (and group members) who are fighting specific categories of “Green Energy” projects in Ontario – or individuals primarily battling Canada’s successful transition to the UN-advocated Global “Green Economy” via Canada’s nation-wide implementation of all-major-party-supported “Sustainable Development”?

      • Both the federal and provincial governments encouraged if not invited foreign renewable energy developers to locate in Canada and Ontario.

        For example, tax incentives were offered which required government actions to do this.

        If this is not planning then what is?

        Also note who furnished at least some of the information used in these government reports/documents. Anyone recognize the names of these sources?

        The Canadian document is an official policy document 2012.

        The U.S. document is a business briefing document by the Dept. of Commerce 2014.

        There are many different types of official documents produced by governments.

  2. Business Insider, U.S.

    “7 Things The Middle Class Can’t Afford”

    Includes:
    Vacations
    New vehicles
    To pay off debt. Too much debit and consumers have to stop purchasing.
    Emergency savings if you lose your job
    Retirement savings for your old age

    All of the above are paid for by extra money left over after essential goods and services are paid for including mortgages.

    Ontario’s high energy costs will only make this situation worse in Ontario than in the U.S.

    Vacations involve the tourist industry.

    New vehicles involve the vehicle manufacturing sector and this involves Canadian made vehicles too. There may not be a UAW much longer in the States.

    Globe And Mail says people are using 7 & 8 year loans to purchase new vehicles in Canada.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/7-things-middles-class-cant-afford-2014-10

  3. It seems to me the Liberals have jumped into this with both feet ignoring the facts and charging full-speed ahead with their plan to create wind farms in rural areas at all costs. Replacing an energy source that created 25% of our electricity needs with one that provides 4 % at a huge accelerating, 20- year cost and giving much of it away at bargain basement prices to Quebec and New York is unconscionable. I have never been more disappointed with a premier!

    • How about those already in energy poverty in Ontario while at the same time electricity is being sold at low prices or given away?

      Unethical or immoral?

  4. ‘[excerpt] The same goes for the Clean Energy Regulator (see Term of Reference 1(b)) and its malign indifference to “performing its legislative responsibilities”. Bombarded with evidence of non-complying wind farms by Senators John Madigan and Chris Back, the CER steadfastly refuses to remove their entitlement to receive Renewable Energy Certificates (worth $millions) – and, instead, spends its time protecting the wind industry from any scrutiny at all. One recent response by Chloe Munro (from the CER) to the issue of wind power outfits engaged in REC fraud (see our post here) says it all, really:

    “I would comment that fraud under the renewable energy target is not actually fraud against the Commonwealth but it is a fraud against the customers of those entities.”

    Comforting to know that the CER thinks REC fraud by wind power outfits isn’t a problem worth pursuing because it says it’s “not actually fraud against the Commonwealth”. After all it’s not costing the CER anything: on the contrary, the CER deducts a levy from every REC it issues, so that it has a direct financial interest in turning a blind eye to REC fraud.

    No, it’s only struggling power consumers – cash-strapped families and businesses trying to keep their heads above water – that are being ripped off as a result of the CER’s indifference.’
    http://stopthesethings.com/2014/11/19/australian-senate-to-turn-up-the-blowtorch-on-the-great-wind-power-fraud/

  5. ‘[excerpt] Warren Buffett is no auto mechanic or used car salesman, but his name is known by many as a great investor. He’s chairman of Berkshire Hathaway and makes enormous bets on companies we all know, companies like Coca Cola, Wells Fargo, Geico Insurance, Fruit of the Loom, Heinz Ketchup, Dairy Queen, and many more. He’s very smart and is, arguably, the most successful investor alive, maybe of all time.

    He’s made about $15 billion dollars of investments in wind and solar energy in Iowa and Wyoming, according to financial publisher Bloomberg. He’s planning on investing $15 billion more elsewhere in America. Soon.

    His wind investments, he says, have treated him especially well. But they’ve treated his tax liabilities even better.

    June 4th, The Wall St. Journal quoted him before an audience in his hometown of Omaha, Nebraska. He said, “I will do anything that is basically covered by the law to reduce Berkshire’s tax rate. For example, on wind energy, we get a tax credit if we build a lot of wind farms. That’s the only reason to build them. They don’t make sense without the tax credit.”’

    http://stopthesethings.com/2014/11/20/jim-odonnell-the-great-wind-power-fraud-is-a-rich-mans-game-the-poor-end-up-paying/

    • Sen. Charles Grassley, R. Iowa is the “father” of the U.S. Production Tax Credit/PTC legislation.

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