Flying turbine debris has local MPP concerned

turbine pieceThe Chatham Voice
The provincial Ministry of Energy will launch an investigation into reports that an 18-inch chunk of a wind turbine blade came loose and flew some 400 feet before landing in a field in the former Howard Twp. Chatham-Kent-Essex MPP Rick Nicholls raised the matter during question period Wednesday at Queen’s Park, calling it a significant safety issue that must be addressed immediately.

“Will your government do the do the right thing and put a moratorium on turbine developments until there is a thorough review of safety standards pertaining to industrial wind turbines,” he asked Premier Kathleen Wynne. Energy Minister Bob Chiarellli said he was unaware of the problem but will raise the issue with his staff as well as those at the ministries of environment and climate change.

Nicholls said called the detached section “flying shrapnel” since the 400-foot tall turbines with blade lengths of 135 feet rotate at nearly 200 miles per hour at the blade tip. In an interview with The Voice, Nicholls said, “we need to know just how widespread this problem is,” he said. “We have scores of turbines along the (Highway) 401 and this kind of flying shrapnel could result in a fatality. The government’s first responsibility is to the citizens of Ontario, not the wind companies or whatever agreements they may have made with private individuals.” Read article

24 thoughts on “Flying turbine debris has local MPP concerned

  1. Since 2013 Siemens had had problems with their wind turbines, both blades and gears. The problems blades have been with SWT-2.3-108 which appear to be the models used by this Kent project and several others. Granted these Ontario blades are said to be manufactured in Tilsenburg, but similar flaws should be checked for.
    See: http://www.windpowermonthly.com/article/1191977/analysis—siemens-acts-fix-bonding-issue-behind-blade-breaks
    and
    http://www.rechargenews.com/wind/1382803/Siemens-Wind-pays-price-for-bearings-blade-issues

    Figures Glen Murray would equate this with chunks falling of skyscrapers — Anyone heard of that happening to the tune of the same rate these blades have been faulty? If so the city would be crawling with inspectors and labour union bosses — So send them out there Mr. Murray — you are an insult to our intelligence and do not deserve the titlle of “Minister” of anything.

  2. 18 inches, 400 feet

    ‘[excerpt] David Cofell, who found the serrated section of blade on his property was surprised how quickly a representative of South Kent Wind arrived at his Base Road home even though he hadn’t contacted the firm.

    Before he did, however, he had in his possession photos of the blade and of a nearby turbine with a section missing.

    Cofell was planting clover seeds in April on his 250-acre property when he found the piece of metal.

    “I told a few people about it and I received a visit from one of their people, a guy named Alex,” he said. “He wouldn’t leave until I gave it to him. I finally did.”

    He finally brought the matter to Chatham-Kent-Essex MPP Rick Nicholls because he was concerned that his incident may not be isolated.

    “I’ve been told that turbine owners have to sign confidentiality agreements,” he said. “This could be happening some where else and no one’s talking about it because they can’t. I don’t want to see someone get hurt.”

    Although the blade section wasn’t heavy, he believes it could have injured someone when it landed.’

  3. If this fellow showed up un-invited, then he was trespassing and had to leave without the blade section as he had no proof of ownership. Only his say so.

    Please, rural Ontarians, learn some law in this situation. Post your property with no trespassing signs.

    • This fellow showed up to remove potential evidence.

      Property owners should not allow this to happen.

      Photographs of any debris should be taken of where found. But keep the debris.

      If anyone shows up that you don’t know, ask them for a business card or some kind of identification.

      Best not to allow them on your property to begin with.

    • Tye, both Tom Adams and Scott Luft who are energy experts have websites where you can get more information as to why IWTs are a waste of money.

      In the first place IWTs are not turbines they are wind mills. They are very large pinwheels connected to a generator.

      Don’t know if you have had physics yet or not?

  4. That piece appears to be part of the noise reduction system. (From the tip of the blade I would say.)

    If it’s dangerous — it’s your fault. You did not want noisy turbines, but you did not spec that the system should not saw your head off when it failed.

    Get the spec right next time folks.

    Kwitcherbellyachin and get back to work and learn to love Gaia. All will be well!

    Cheers!

    • From the picture it looks like the noise reduction piece is fastened with just a few spots of glue, if that is true it should come as no surprise that these pieces will fly off.

      • If that piece of debris had been kept, then maybe it could have been proven how it was fastened on.

        Keep the debris!

        And if debris falls on a roadway, photograph it and notify the OPP to remove it. Then see who shows up to remove it?

      • A young person I know will never work again because a piece of flying debris went through the windshield of her car.

      • This photo can be blown-up to better show what the white “dabs” on the piece of debris look like.

  5. Executive action – requires lots of unawareness –
    not to mention
    holiday parties – and, whatever else the executive feels is appropriate.

    ‘[excerpt] Energy Minister Bob Chiarellli said he was unaware of the problem but will raise the issue with his staff as well as those at the ministries of environment and climate change.’

  6. Heads up!

    The “flying shrapnel” problem, and solution.

    In an interview with The Voice, Nicholls said,
    ‘[excerpt] “we need to know just how widespread this problem is,” he said. “We have scores of turbines along the (Highway) 401 and this kind of flying shrapnel could result in a fatality. The government’s first responsibility is to the citizens of Ontario, not the wind companies or whatever agreements they may have made with private individuals.”’

    Ontario liberals ‘soon’ tendering – for “flying shrapnel” signs;
    and, the process will be transparent –
    so Ontarians –
    can be reassured –
    they are not forgotten…..stay safe!

    It’s heart warming!

  7. The South Kent wind plant; am I correct in assuming this is one of the newer IWT sites in SW Ont?

    All such wind plants are in there infancy in relative terms; they are supposed to last over 20 years.
    What we are seeing is turbines catching fire (Goderich); turbine towers leaning over (Strathroy)
    turbine parts flying off (Chatham) and so on.

    What is the long term lookout for these contraptions as they age and metal fatigue and general mechanical deterioration sets in. Does anyone in government have a clue, or even care? I doubt it; the whole emphasis is on getting them approved and built while this government has a majority.
    Worry about safety can come maybe with the next regime.This one is obsessed with “saving the planet”.

  8. Very strong wind storm has been moving through southern Ontario with wind gusts in some areas predicted to be up to 100 km which is at or near hurricane strength.

    IWT debris may be seen by tomorrow morning?

  9. Most of the turbines had to be shut off from parkhill to Kerwood and watford with the wind storm.

    Although a few stayed on for some reason going insanely fast.

    And our hydro was out for hours…..

    Looks to me it’s just caulking holding the blades together. Hoping people will hold this companies feet to the fire and get some answers and not let them sweep it under the dirt.

  10. http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2014/11/24/kelly-mcparland-how-three-of-canadas-premiers-can-serve-the-national-interest/

    This story highlights the environmental busybodyism of Wynne and Premier Couillard, as they attempt to attach conditions on which to allow construction of the East Energy Pipeline, through their provinces. One of the conditions:

    “adoption of the highest standards of safety and protection of the natural gas supply for consumers”

    This breathtaking hypocrisy comes from the same government which gave Wind companies carte blanche latitude on construction of turbine plants; to build on airway flight paths, to build towers that lean over, blades attachments that fly off, construction cranes that self destroy, and so on.
    .
    Wynne might look in her own backyard for existing safety standards, before lecturing on pipeline construction.

    • CTV NEWS Toronto, April 29, 2011

      Wind storm left 135,000 Hydro One customers without power in southern Ontario which pounded through the region.

      Thursday’s storm had winds approaching 100 km/h

      http://www.toronto.ctvnews.ca/wind-storm-leaves-135-000-without-power-1.637428

      Then there was the December 2013 Pre-Christmas ice storm that struck southern Ontario knocking out power lines.

      But Ontario does not have any severe storms that can throw flying debris around that can cause severe injury or even death? Bring down power lines? Nothing to be concerned about?

      How soon we forget! Two severe storms a week apart in November 2014.

    • ARHIVED PAGE: Google, Environment Canada, Top Weather Events of the 20th Century

      Ice storm of the century-Jan. 4-9, 1998 Eastern Canada

      Took out 130 transmission towers, 120,000 km of power and telephone lines. Power outages lasted for several hours to 4 weeks.

      Just because something can be done, like IWTs, should it be done?. What are the risks involved?

      Power transmission lines are the Achilles Heel.

    • How much stock would have to be kept on hand to make repairs to downed power lines with this IWT grid? Repair stock costs a lot of money to keep on hand.

      ———————————————————————————————-

      Great Canadian Lakes, Page 3

      Graveyards of Lake Ontario

      In the years since 1679, more than 10,000 ships have gone down in the Great Lakes.

      http://www.greatcanadianlakes.com/ontario/lake_ontario/his_page3.htm

      If risk assessments were ever done about installing IWTs in Ontario, then they were ignored?

  11. ALGONQUIN POWER

    Just realized that this blazing turbine in Texas belongs to Algonquin Power!

    Senate Wind Farm.

    Happened a few weeks ago.

    Pretty sure they are trying to keep this one quiet as we all know the issues with Algonquin Power and Amherst Island!

    Accidentally came across this and found it very interesting that none of these IWT`s that we have in Ontario have any form of Fire Protection at all?

    Not One of them!

    In Europe all turbines are equipped with Fire Suppression right out of the factory. (Cousin Jean works at a plant in Denmark). He explains that this is an option like a/c in a car?
    Why are we not having this option?
    My kids deserve this right?

    Guess they know a little more than us Canadians across the Pond?

    Maybe it will take a few more Fire Departments standing by monitoring these fires before we get any action?

    Turbine parts hurling across the countryside on Fire?

    Nothing else they can do I guess other then watch?

    Seems Crazy!

    We are under full attack on the once beautiful shores of Lake Huron in Grand Bend!

    Working full time with the local Fire Department here to try and make these monster energy companies at least do this destruction with limited casualties.

    We will have the IWT`s regulated and mandated here with Fire Protection I`m told but seeing is believing.

    So far this is the only thing that we have been able to come up with that at least has deaf people listening.

    Good Luck Amherst Island!

    https://www.wind-watch.org/news/2014/10/21/senate-wind-turbine-burns/

    http://www.jacksboronewspapers.com/news/ci_26763881/senate-wind-turbine-burns?source=JBarTicker

    • Right Tye, but you would never be chosen to be an Ontario premier with what you propose to do and should be done!

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